2023 annual Jazzfanz all time NBA draft
- Thread starter Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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David Hume
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Kyle Korver was actually on my radar. Glad to see someone else saw merit in him.
The Fresh Prince
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This is gonna be a fun sim man. I'm looking forward to seeing how these rosters pair up against eachother.
The Fresh Prince
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@Thee Idiotic Minivan K yes, that's doable for me.
Domino
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At work Korver was probably gonna be my pick might be a min till I can get on to research who I want sorry
Keefe
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@YoungJefe is up
Coach Ellis
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I’m still interested in moving up - 141 & 148 for a higher 9th round pick and your last pick coming back PM me if interested. Thanks.
Really looking forward to the sims man, probably more so than the votes even.. lol.. as it’s a popularity contest at times.. lol..
So this should’ve been figured out at the top, but in lieu of that we should lock this down right now.
One of the recurring issues of these competitions is that without some kind of merit-based seeding, the championship round is a total dud and the best matchup is a round or two earlier. Whatever it takes to get the two “best” teams to the final is what I support, and some notion of merit-based seeding would be required for that.
This is what I propose (which we almost did last year but didn’t): use the sim to create seeding. In the matchups (“playoffs”) we still do board voting (this is important because we want to have board participation but also I just don’t think the sim is going to do as good a job on calculating fit, strategy, rotations, etc.). However, if a team fails to capture 60% of the vote, then the contest goes to a “game 7” where the higher seed has homecourt in a one-game simulation.
What could be fun is in that game 7, we could have a recap and box score of the game just to add a little more fun.
I think between the two systems, each of their weaknesses are mitigated and their strengths preserved.
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This is a fantastic idea. Really hate it when 1 vote pushes a team to a win. A Game 7 sim would solve that plus it would be fun analysing the game 7 results.
I’m all for this idea.
It also puts a buffer against mysterious users being that one or two votes.
It also creates a buffer between irrational Jazz fan hate (towards Harden, PG, Iverson, whatever) and reality. There are absolutely wrong calls made just because fans make straight up emotionally-led decisions.
Conversely, stat-stuffers are a way to game sims. So, try to balance them out. We could tinker and make the threshold 65% of votes but I think 60% is better.
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Fosto
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I think it's a given that the winners will be determined by voting, and not by sims. Also, if a team captures more than 50% of the vote, why would anything change in a game 7? Wouldn't the team with more votes still get more votes in a game 7? It's the same people voting on the same matchup. Unless I misunderstood what you meant.
I liked what I did last year and had the seeding determined by consensus rankings from the participants in the competition.
The game 7 is determined by sim.
That’s fine too (probably better with enough voters) it’s just another hurdle/ask of people. The issue of tiebreakers gets messy and if we have 10-20 people voting there will be a lot of them. The seeding question in terms of voting is usually just complicated and messy.
David Hume
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I can support either Numberica’s or Elizah’s ideas on seeding. Both would work.
gandalfe
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FYI, I'm going to be out of pocket for the next couple of days - may be no network access at all. I'm going to send @Thee Idiotic Minivan K my options for this upcoming pick.