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I feel like there's a major blindspot going on with the evaluation of JHS. Do people realize that he can't get to the basket or finish when he gets there? Andy Larsen said he reminds him of a bigger Jalen Brunson today. JHS is Shai, DWill, now a bigger Brunson. I think people just assume that because he has positional size he's a good athlete who can put pressure on the rim. It's either that or they have no idea what makes those NBA players good.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Just watched Leif on Locked on Jazz.. he did mention the twins shooting in workouts were so bad they stopped and moved onto other drills..

Wasn’t sure I heard it right,, but man that sounded ugly.
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Yep it does sound consistently bad. They overwhelmed their competition but if they lose GM's in a shooting drill which is not super hard then they are really flawed.
 
Wonder if closer to the draft teams would get cold feet with the twins shooting?

With the info about Black potentially rising to #4 too.

Could see Amen and Austar dropping to us.

Not sure how I would feel about picking them up.
 
KqWIN said:
I feel like there's a major blindspot going on with the evaluation of JHS. Do people realize that he can't get to the basket or finish when he gets there? Andy Larsen said he reminds him of a bigger Jalen Brunson today. JHS is Shai, DWill, now a bigger Brunson. I think people just assume that because he has positional size he's a good athlete who can put pressure on the rim. It's either that or they have no idea what makes those NBA players good.
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Look on the tape I saw he gets no separation. He gets his shot off still because he's a big guard. I'd guess the guys guarding him in the NBA will bother some of that. With an open court (the old nba space is the cure-all) maybe he can get some more paint finishes.

I think most people consider him polarizing. I don't think hes so terrible he can't figure some stuff out... but at 16 I would find better bets. At 9... give me a damn break. i think people get it... I would be elated if someone took him between 10-15.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Wonder if closer to the draft teams would get cold feet with he twins shooting?

With the info about Black potentially rising to #4 too.

Could see Amen and Austar dropping to us.

Now sure how I would feel about picking them up.
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I'd pick them if I felt they would retain their value over the next two years in the marketplace - thinking rebuild - and opportunistically trade them. If you feel they won't even do that then avoid them.

And the thinking would be Ausur cancelled his workouts because he was starting to look bad not a promise.

But hey we are making Dunn work, we can make Ausur work. Just surround him with shooting. You may have to trade Walker long-term though.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Just watched Leif on Locked on Jazz.. he did mention the twins shooting in workouts were so bad they stopped and moved onto other drills..

Wasn’t sure I heard it right,, but man that sounded ugly.
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I understand if you're out on all 3....but I really think it's a valid question as to why we're so sure about the Twins being top 6 picks while Bilal makes some queasy at #9. Again, I understand why Bilal might be everyone's type of prospect....but there are two much bigger mystery boxes being drafted ahead of him. If you're who's better between Bilal and Ausar, for example, it's kinda all speculation especially for those who are watching their workouts. But if they're not doing well in workouts....what are we basing their case off of?

And this is not me saying Bilal should go ahead of them, but maybe they should be going where Bilal is being drafted. If there's a "surprise" on draft night, I think it will be someone like Black, Walker, Hendricks, Dick being drafted ahead of them. I think those are all really good prospects and the teams ahead of us desperately need players like them.

It only takes one team....but I feel like the Twins could very easily slide if they miss their initial destination.
 
whatthe said:
I'd pick them if I felt they would retain their value over the next two years in the marketplace - thinking rebuild - and opportunistically trade them. If you feel they won't even do that then avoid them.

And the thinking would be Ausur cancelled his workouts because he was starting to look bad not a promise.

But hey we are making Dunn work, we can make Ausur work. Just surround him with shooting. You may have to trade Walker long-term though.
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I don’t think it’s a good idea to draft players you think you’ll end up trading..

Gun to my head right now I’m more leaning Black/Henricks over the Thompson twins.. lol..
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Look on the tape I saw he gets no separation. He gets his shot off still because he's a big guard. I'd guess the guys guarding him in the NBA will bother some of that. With an open court (the old nba space is the cure-all) maybe he can get some more paint finishes.

I think most people consider him polarizing. I don't think hes so terrible he can't figure some stuff out... but at 16 I would find better bets. At 9... give me a damn break. i think people get it... I would be elated if someone took him between 10-15.
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JHS gets no separation or elevation. No burst and he doesn't have great craft around the basket either. He's not Ingles who can finish at the basket on the ground, he gets his **** blocked so much. I do get why people like his film though. He ratio of good things to bad things is fairly strong and his work in the mid range is very smooth, but he's also one of those guys that you think played well but then you look at the box score and he's 5-16 with 11 points. I think he is the ultimate Tony Jones prospect where he would look amazing in a pickup game. He's also had some really impressive shooting games where he's hitting so many tough shots....but when I watch those games it just looks like he's getting hot and it doesn't look sustainable. It aesthetically pleasing....but not what leads to consistent, efficient offense imo.

I don't even know what to think of the "promise zone" behind us....but I really hope JHS gets picked in that range. If he pushes back Bufkin, Bilal, or Wallace I'd be very pleased.
 
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