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Yeah, part of the Bilal fantasy (which I do dream about too) is that the team that drafts him will put him into a mythical Captain America chamber and he comes out like Giannis. He's at the age where it could happen....but that's a dice roll.
 
@andylarsen says the Jazz are high in Jarace/Black and low on Cam. What happens if he slips to #9? Do we take Bilal, Bufkin, or Cam???
I think the good news is that the jazz have the assets to maneuver around if they need to. If the jazz don't come out of this draft with at least one asset they are really high on then they **** the bed imo. I'm really excited to see what happens, I'm also weary of falling in love with whomever the jazz pick right away, because there's plenty of reason to believe players could be on the move after they've been picked.
 
59.5% from FT
1/15 off the dribble shots
1/14 from mid-range

He is 6’8 and has a 7’2 wingspan though.
median outcome is andre roberson - dude was a full time starter for three years in the league. that is no joke. elite defender with length and athleticism who you keep around for a while because of his defense, but ultimately you realize playing 4 on 5 on one end of the court just doesn't work great.

if he learns to shoot, he surpasses a guy like Roberson. if he doesn't, he's probably not THAT great defensively and never becomes a three year starter.
 
Still remember Haliburton fell to 12 after being a consensus top 10 talent and people said teams must've saw something wrong with him that us fans didn't.
 
median outcome is andre roberson - dude was a full time starter for three years in the league. that is no joke. elite defender with length and athleticism who you keep around for a while because of his defense, but ultimately you realize playing 4 on 5 on one end of the court just doesn't work great.

I definitely see the intrigue with him. He did start on a team that made the championship so there is something there.

To have those bad of shooting numbers when Wemby is taking so much defensive attention away from you is scary.

Also, almost all of his points came from transition and fast breaks.
 
I've never claimed that Bilal is a good shooter. Please do not accuse me of that, I do not wish to argue against something that is made up....but harping on tiny samples sizes that are negative is no different than harping on tiny sample sizes that are positive. A sample is small or it isn't, you can't pick and choose if it's significant or not based on your predetermined opinion. If 59.5% at the line matters, 45% from 3 should also matter. The most alarming thing about Bilal's shooting is more so the low attempts more than the percentages themselves, just not enough attempts. You can see the lack of confidence in his shooting on film, it's obvious.
 
Also with Bilal he did shoot 36.5% from 3 combined in the regular season and playoffs. Super small sample size shot attempts wise and a lot of those were wide open but that isn’t bad.
 
median outcome is andre roberson - dude was a full time starter for three years in the league. that is no joke. elite defender with length and athleticism who you keep around for a while because of his defense, but ultimately you realize playing 4 on 5 on one end of the court just doesn't work great.

if he learns to shoot, he surpasses a guy like Roberson. if he doesn't, he's probably not THAT great defensively and never becomes a three year starter.

McDaniels and Herb jones are two guys I had in mind for his most likely outcomes.
 
I definitely see the intrigue with him. He did start on a team that made the championship so there is something there.

To have those bad of shooting numbers when Wemby is taking so much defensive attention away from you is scary.

Also, almost all of his points came from transition and fast breaks.
those defensive specialists, especially versatile defenders do have value on winning teams for sure. roberson started on a 55-27 NBA team. it sounds like by comparing him to Roberson i'm ripping him, rather i'm mostly just trying to point out what happens to defensive players who never learn to shoot. especially in today's league. having non-shooters out there is really hard.
 
I think Bilal has a really good percentage at the rim as well if I’m remembering right. I like that and think it’s an underrated skill.
 
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