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Ochai is evidence as to why it’s a concern, not the other way around.
I see the Ochai stuff and I think people forget that Ochai was a 22 yo rookie and Taylor is a 19 yo rookie.
 
What’s wrong with Ochai?

The reason why he was in the gleague is because he was not good, and he's still not very good. TH is a LOT younger than Ochai, so it's not 1:1....but I think they are similar in the sense that even their biggest supporters imagine them as role players.
 
It was a statement about Ochai being bad more than it is about Taylor. Ochai is rocking 50 TS% with still questionable (yet improved) defense. He's not the beacon of hope for anyone.
I do think Ochai has touched the ball more and had a great rebounding game the other night. I think his 3 point shooting is better than he has shot it thus far this year. I think the problem I had with people last year was translating what he was doing as a rookie and using it as some big indicator of potential. I think he can be a fine 3 and D player that occasionally makes a straight line drive and will look like prime Lebron in transition but look like Royce O' Neale in the halfcourt. I just think he needs to be told to focus on the important things and forget about his on ball stuff. Everytime I see him run a pick and roll or try to score off the dribble I know its not gonna end well...

And that is the similarity I see with Taylor. I think he should work on handle and passing as its real bad... but his focus needs to be shooting (off of some motion, pick and pop, and spot up) and learning how to set screens and roll. Defense obviously... but the point is to cut out some of this nonsense you might think you need to be a star and really perfect the things you show the most promise in. In the lone G League game I will likely ever watch I saw far too much watching and not enough involvement in the screen game.
 
I do think Ochai has touched the ball more and had a great rebounding game the other night. I think his 3 point shooting is better than he has shot it thus far this year. I think the problem I had with people last year was translating what he was doing as a rookie and using it as some big indicator of potential. I think he can be a fine 3 and D player that occasionally makes a straight line drive and will look like prime Lebron in transition but look like Royce O' Neale in the halfcourt. I just think he needs to be told to focus on the important things and forget about his on ball stuff. Everytime I see him run a pick and roll or try to score off the dribble I know its not gonna end well...

And that is the similarity I see with Taylor. I think he should work on handle and passing as its real bad... but his focus needs to be shooting (off of some motion, pick and pop, and spot up) and learning how to set screens and roll. Defense obviously... but the point is to cut out some of this nonsense you might think you need to be a star and really perfect the things you show the most promise in. In the lone G League game I will likely ever watch I saw far too much watching and not enough involvement in the screen game.

I agree with all of this. My post was just to say, it doesn't make sense to say "he's just like Ochai and that's great". If you're optimistic about TH, it should be more along the lines of "TH is different than Ochai and this is why".
 
I agree with all of this. My post was just to say, it doesn't make sense to say "he's just like Ochai and that's great". If you're optimistic about TH, it should be more along the lines of "TH is different than Ochai and this is why".
Fo sho... and I wasn't trying to disagree... I get going sometimes and it doesn't always end up a direct response to the actual item of discussion.
 
Crazy that people are so upset we didnt move up from 9 to get one of the guys we liked. We almost for sure would have given up Keyonte's pick. Anyone we could have traded up for I am not positive is better than him.

Yeah, Keyonte wasn't expected to be available at #16. There was speculation he was going to OKC at 12, but then OKC flipped a small trade to grab Wallace.
 
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