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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

Great video about Wemby and his potential impact on the NBA, and potential risks in drafting him.

 
Bodhi said:
Here is where I stand today. Dudes still moving a lot by the game/day:

1: Wemby
2: Amen
3: Scoot
4: Miller
5: Ausar
6: Keyonte
7: Walker
8: Wallace
9: Hendricks
10: GG
11: Leonard Miller
12: Black
13: Jett
14: Nick Smith Jr
15: Hawkins
16: Whitmore
17: Dick
18: Sensabaugh
19: Filipowski
20: Hood-Shifinio
21: Maxwell Lewis
22: Kris Murray
23: Ware
24: Clowney
25: Whitehead
26: Sasser
27: Terrance Shannon
28: Rupert
29: Jackson-Davis
30: Colby Jones
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I don't watch much college, and literally none of the other weird league that is going on, so I am not seeing more than highlights and what you all post here, so I wondered if Amen's shot is developing. I like what I have seen of his game, except his shot is pretty suspect. Is it improving?
 
If you are not improving your shooting in the Gleague and have a mediocre or poor FT%, I would say that shooting would not improve. Gleague is a fulltime job, college is not. Amen could be stuck as a mediocre shooter who has everything else. Could work somewhat in the point guard role, but anything else, I don't know.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't watch much college, and literally none of the other weird league that is going on, so I am not seeing more than highlights and what you all post here, so I wondered if Amen's shot is developing. I like what I have seen of his game, except his shot is pretty suspect. Is it improving?
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OTE is terrible so you have to project here that you think his shot can improve with some development at the NBA level. His form really isnt bad, they just dont fall.

Actually right now Ausar has better assist stats and is hitting 3's at a higher percentage to Amen, 30% to 25%. One game Amen will go 3/4 from 3 and the next 0/6.

Scoot actually raised his 3pt % from 25 to 28% but youre going to have to project on all 3 of these dudes when it comes to ability to spread the floor and hit 3's at an even average clip.
 
Bodhi said:
OTE is terrible so you have to project here that you think his shot can improve with some development at the NBA level. His form really isnt bad, they just dont fall.

Actually right now Ausar has better assist stats and is hitting 3's at a higher percentage to Amen, 30% to 25%. One game Amen will go 3/4 from 3 and the next 0/6.

Scoot actually raised his 3pt % from 25 to 28% but youre going to have to project on all 3 of these dudes when it comes to ability to spread the floor and hit 3's at an even average clip.
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Thanks for the recap.

Serious question for everybody, is it even worth it to take a player who doesn't have a 3 point shot in today's NBA? At least, a wing or guard. Even top-notch D doesn't keep a guy on the court if he can't make shots, unless he is a freak of nature, or a rim-protecting big. I would be very wary to take someone who isn't at least decent from 3, say 33% or so, with good form.
 
whatthe said:
If you are not improving your shooting in the Gleague and have a mediocre or poor FT%, I would say that shooting would not improve. Gleague is a fulltime job, college is not. Amen could be stuck as a mediocre shooter who has everything else. Could work somewhat in the point guard role, but anything else, I don't know.
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My problem with Thompsons is that the level of competition in OTE is so bad that they look better than they are and would look significantly worse in College or in the G League.

There are 3 guys who have come out of OTE thus far and had some interest from NBA teams...
- Dominick Barlow (Spurs) scored 23.5/9.5R with league leading 63% TS in OTA and can barely break end of the bench in the league worst Spurs. He has scored 9.6 points and 4.1 rebounds in 24.0 MPG in the G League this year. Wasnt drafted, but was signed as UFA immediately after draft.
- Jean Montero finished top 3 in points, assists and steals in OTE... and got an Exhibit 10 contract from the Knicks, who didn't even sign him to a 2 way deal.
- Jai Smith averaged 18.4/14.5R in OTE and got a summer league run by Kings but nothing else.

I just dont know how I can trust prospects coming out of that league by putting a top 5 pick on them before someone actually proves they can produce NBA-worthy guys there.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Thanks for the recap.

Serious question for everybody, is it even worth it to take a player who doesn't have a 3 point shot in today's NBA? At least, a wing or guard. Even top-notch D doesn't keep a guy on the court if he can't make shots, unless he is a freak of nature, or a rim-protecting big. I would be very wary to take someone who isn't at least decent from 3, say 33% or so, with good form.
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With the system Hardy has in place.. I'm pretty sure we will not touch a guy who isnt at least half-decent from 3. Some teams run different types of offenses and dont necessarily emphasize the 3 that much but I think those teams are harder and harder to come by.
 
HermanG said:
My problem with Thompsons is that the level of competition in OTE is so bad that they look better than they are and would look significantly worse in College or in the G League.

There are 3 guys who have come out of OTE thus far and had some interest from NBA teams...
- Dominick Barlow (Spurs) scored 23.5/9.5R with league leading 63% TS in OTA and can barely break end of the bench in the league worst Spurs. He has scored 9.6 points and 4.1 rebounds in 24.0 MPG in the G League this year. Wasnt drafted, but was signed as UFA immediately after draft.
- Jean Montero finished top 3 in points, assists and steals in OTE... and got an Exhibit 10 contract from the Knicks, who didn't even sign him to a 2 way deal.
- Jai Smith averaged 18.4/14.5R in OTE and got a summer league run by Kings but nothing else.

I just dont know how I can trust prospects coming out of that league by putting a top 5 pick on them before someone actually proves they can produce NBA-worthy guys there.
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Locked in Draft had a grass roots basketball guy on and he made a lot of great points about OTE.

I think people are way too caught up on the competition/games being played and are ignoring how much OTE may potentially be better as a NBA development tool with how much practice time, the facilities, the strength/conditioning, the practice quality, etc.

People just see a bunch of HS aged kids playing with a shot clock and NBA spacing for the first time and get too caught up in how raw it all is.
 
HermanG said:
My problem with Thompsons is that the level of competition in OTE is so bad that they look better than they are and would look significantly worse in College or in the G League.

There are 3 guys who have come out of OTE thus far and had some interest from NBA teams...
- Dominick Barlow (Spurs) scored 23.5/9.5R with league leading 63% TS in OTA and can barely break end of the bench in the league worst Spurs. He has scored 9.6 points and 4.1 rebounds in 24.0 MPG in the G League this year. Wasnt drafted, but was signed as UFA immediately after draft.
- Jean Montero finished top 3 in points, assists and steals in OTE... and got an Exhibit 10 contract from the Knicks, who didn't even sign him to a 2 way deal.
- Jai Smith averaged 18.4/14.5R in OTE and got a summer league run by Kings but nothing else.

I just dont know how I can trust prospects coming out of that league by putting a top 5 pick on them before someone actually proves they can produce NBA-worthy guys there.
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Yeah OTE is just rough. Its hard to even wartch the games. It seems like an And1 mixtape setup and some of the worst basketball ive seen.

I just see freak athletes from the Thompson twins though and am still high on both.
 
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