I dont see many glaring red flags for Cam, but he just didnt produce enough for him to be a slam dunk guarantee. He's got the tools in spades, and that's what makes him higher than others.
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Yeah, I love the idea of Podz, but he's got cement feet guarding his own man. He also had pretty mediocre numbers when they played better competition. He will be an interesting one to keep up with because he has a lot of the advanced stats indicators.
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The passing is an issue... but not like he can't fix or work around it. I think his shot is pretty... the way he moves gives me shower boners (sorry it got weird)... I just think he's a guy that becomes tough to deal with.
JHS is bigger and better mover laterally. I also think JHS has better ability to rise up over NBA sized players to get his shot off where Podz might have to be more off-ball/quick decisions on-ball (effectively preventing him from being a primary handler and more a secondary side creator). You're also going to have to get someone to guard the 1 on the other team where JHS can realistically matchup with smaller quicker guards and not get absolutely cooked like Podz might.
I think Podz really needs to prove he's an elite shooter. He had elite 3pt% this season, but his FT% doesn't add up to an elite shooter, so it might have been a bit flukey.
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i mean, is jhs quick enough laterally?
Yes.
Not that quick guards wont be a complete non-issue, but his combination of length, lateral movement, and strength lets him be a pretty versatile man defender.
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what makes jhs quicker than podz? i mean, i watched both of them quite a bit (JHS more than podz) and i didn't see any distinction on the court. did jhs do better in the athletic testing at the combine?
Laterally? I think it's pretty clear when you watching any of their scouting reports. Podz is just really susceptible to his feet getting stuck in mud, especially when he has to close out. JHS just has better reactions and movement when guarding on ball. Podz is a good team defender and he does a great job of reading passing lanes, but he gets absolutely lost sometimes when he has to make multiple moves on defense.
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so you're making it up or at least applying your own biases. because i disagree that it's clear when watching their scouting reports.
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also, in regard to this sentence - he shot 77% from the FT line. Al Horford was second in the league in 3pt% this year. Shot 71% from the FT line. Podz took 185 threes this past season - that's a big enough sample that yeah, it aint flukey. as much as we like to think 3pt% and FT% are connected at the hip, they simply aren't. Joe Harris is a career 77% FT shooter and career 44% 3pt. He shot 64% FTs this past season while shooting 43% from three.
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I can assure you I'm not making it up and it showed up during the combine on some of his closeouts.
Horford/Podz arent comparable in the kind of 3's they take. Podz isnt going to be a pick n pop/floor spacing big. And you are talking about a dude who took .3 FTA per game, so just stop.
They are connected at the hip for elite shooting guards/wings. Curry/Klay/Kennard/Brogdon/Maxey/Hield/Kispert/Leonard/Brunson
Any guard/wing who is creating his own 3pt looks and is an elite shooter (consistently year to year, not just a hot shooting season like Horford had) and is getting enough FTA is shooting well above 80%.
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i guess you missed my edit - Joe Harris.
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Funny thing is the NBA comps this writer made for JHS are Dejounte Murray, Immanuel Quickley, and Malcom Brogdon. A bunch of players JFC has had separate love affairs with yet he's one of the more underrated prospects here.
Joe Harris has a tiny volume of FTA. Does not qualify.
But Joe Harris was a poor FT shooting in college as well. So he could be considered an outlier, but at the NBA level, if you are an elite volume 3pt shooter who actually draws fouls, you are shooting over 80% in almost all cases, and usually more around 85%.
And again, I'm not saying he wont be because the FT is what it is, but it's not a positive indicator.
And again, I'm not saying he wont be because the FT is what it is, but it's not a positive indicator.
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MPJ, Alec Burks are 79% and 80% respectively - both 42% and 41% 3pt shooters. not much different than Podz 77%. sorry man, 77% just isn't that bad - it isn't great, but plenty of 40% 3pt shooters right in that range. not to mention, he improved from 71% the previous season and played the season at age 19. not unreasonable to think he's a low to mid-80s FT shooter with another year under his belt.
Brother Burks is a career 80% from the foul line and since transforming himself into a better shooter it's more around 83%
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81% this past season. a whopping 4% better than podz at age 19.
Whopping 4%?
So there is no difference between a 36% shooter from 3 and a 40% shooter from 3?
You're just arguing to argue right now. FT/3pt are correlated. The truly elite shooters in the NBA (not freaking Alec Burks) are usually high level FT shooters. That's what Podz needs to get to, or close to, if he wants to be a primary ball-handler in the NBA.
I'm as high as almost anyone on Podz and think he has a chance to do that. I would be lying to myself if I didnt acknowledge the FT% doesnt point to an elite shooter.