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NUMBERICA said:
But we’re not talking about mediocre.
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Sure, but there's nothing there that suggest he shouldnt at least be able to get to mediocre status. I think maybe we are taking a snapshot of where he was bad on D to start the season and maybe not being holistic for how his D improved throughout the season.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure, but there's nothing there that suggest he shouldnt at least be able to get to mediocre status. I think maybe we are taking a snapshot of where he was bad on D to start the season and maybe not being holistic for how his D improved throughout the season.
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I think there is a lot there to suggest that. He was terrible and lost on defense in the NCAA. And he might have red-flag knees which put a ceiling on his ability to react, close out, and contest in the sudden and explosive way that modern NBA defense is played.

He would have to be bonkers good pretty much out of the gate to justify the pick and #9 is not the place to make such a long-odds bet where the alternative is a guy that can’t even get on the floor because of catastrophic flaws.

I am coming around to the possibility of him at #16. No way in hell you take him with some of the dudes that are still going to be on the board there and with strong odds he’s still there at #16 (and if he’s not, that is terrific).
 
KqWIN said:
Random Dick fact.....He was actually better shooting off the dribble than catch and shoot at Kansas. IIRC, he had a crazy weird shot chart where he was godly from above the break and not very good from the corners. Usually players are better in catch and shoot situations and from the corners. I've been one to mention how his overall shooting numbers are great, but don't stand out among a group of other good shooters in this draft. He was really great at making the more difficult shots. If he made the easy ones, his shooting would have been bonkers.
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So this is the chart I'm referencing. Not the whole season, but this is freaking crazy. God mode 50+% from above the break and a crappy 25% from the corners. It's insanity. For reference, in the NBA this season above the break was 35% and 38% from the corners. If I had to pick, I would definitely bet on the guy making the tough ones and hope he makes the easy ones than vice versa.


View: https://twitter.com/ZachMilner13/status/1623025273502584832
 
KqWIN said:
I would secure Bilal at #9, but if that's important a trade back is reasonable. I just don't think Ainge gets cute in tradeback scenarios if he likes someone. There was a 100% chance he would still get Tatum when he traded back. If there was a 95% chance he might not have done it.
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I think they will have a few guys they like in that range as they are picking twice in that general area… I also don’t think it was 100% assures they would get Tatum when they moved back. 90%+ sure but dudes can change their mind quickly or pull a fast one on you.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Only if we know one of the mostly-consensus top-11 guys is still there (most likely Wallace, Dick, and/or Black). And if we know that but are not terribly preferential of one over another then that would be a great trade.
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I think I’d do it but I have Hawkins in similar tier to Dick, Wallace and Black. So I see it as a top 12.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Thought that popped into my head… I wonder if we stay at 9 and OKC stays at 12… would you trade back to 12 to get our pick back that they own. Maybe they love Dick or maybe Hendricks is there and they love him. Might have a chance to still grab Wallace or Hawkins and then We don’t have the obligation hanging over our season.
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Are you suggesting they enhance the protections on the 2024 pick so we for sure get it, and roll back the obligation to 2025, or that the obligation completely cease to exist?

I dont think you could get them to do it unless it's just rolling it back. I dont think they would fully give up control of the pick just to move up from 12 to 9. Could be wrong.
 
There's no denying Dick will be good. Maybe Klay Thompson is his peak. I am just more infatuated with Brice. I think a kid that goes to Ohio State such as Mike Conley, can easily adjust to the Utah market.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Thought that popped into my head… I wonder if we stay at 9 and OKC stays at 12… would you trade back to 12 to get our pick back that they own. Maybe they love Dick or maybe Hendricks is there and they love him. Might have a chance to still grab Wallace or Hawkins and then We don’t have the obligation hanging over our season.
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I would
 
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