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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

Big Boards should be pretty differnet person to person because I assure you they are pretty different team to team.

Klintman at 15 is very reasonable. He's super skilled and has a great NBA body and athletic profile. He's the closest thing to Kuzma since Kuzma got drafted IMO but he has actual defensive upside unlike Kuzma.
 
Is that his public persona? I always felt like his thing was making content that wasn't necessarily coming from an expert/analyst voice, but more like one of your buddies or just some guy. He has a similar narrative voice to Bill Simmons, the "sports guy". He's an expert in the same way that guy at the bar is an expert.
The space he occupies is that between an expert and an analyst. I don’t think he’s very much like Simmons at all who is mostly a writer/comic that loves basketball history.
 
“I’m declaring for the draft while maintaining my eligibility at Wake Forest,” Klintman told The Athletic. “I am looking to learn what teams think about me, trying to find a team that has a good track record of player development. I’m just trying to find a good fit for me. I recognize that I have a lot of room to grow with my game, and I want to reach my full potential. I think I can do that in the NBA, but I want to find the right situation, which is why I’m also maintaining my eligibility.”

This was from Vecenie's article on Klintman after he declared. Sounds like he found that team.
 
The space he occupies is that between an expert and an analyst. I don’t think he’s very much like Simmons at all who is mostly a writer/comic that loves basketball history.
KOC was basically the Ringer's replacement for Zach Lowe after he went to ESPN. KOC has been following the draft for years before he got to the Ringer. He isnt just a draft guy, but he is definitely the draft guy on The Ringer.

I like KOC a lot and think he's one of the better draft people. Not that I agree with everything he says, but I think his reasonings and process are better than most.
 
I really dont get calling KOC for this. If he was a dude milking his board and updating it weekly for clicks it'd be one thing, but he is putting out a monthly ranking. A lot can change month to month.
I actually undersold my point. He has THREE players in the lottery conversation that weren’t even on his radar a month ago (two of whom have been firmly on others’ radars well before that).
 
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KOC was basically the Ringer's replacement for Zach Lowe after he went to ESPN. KOC has been following the draft for years before he got to the Ringer. He isnt just a draft guy, but he is definitely the draft guy on The Ringer.

I like KOC a lot and think he's one of the better draft people. Not that I agree with everything he says, but I think his reasonings and process are better than most.
I agree with most of what you’re saying which is why I’m bemoaning what appears to be rather obvious and substantial slippage to me.
 
The space he occupies is that between an expert and an analyst. I don’t think he’s very much like Simmons at all who is mostly a writer/comic that loves basketball history.

I guess I never took him that seriously. In my head he was always Kevin O'Compliment (I swear that's a real thing people say) because he just compliments everyone is and SUPER nice about everything and anything. He's like an overload of positivity. I like listening to him and Chris Herring, and that podcast is definitely just two guys at the bar mucking it up and not some expert analysis.
 
Oh, and Gortman had a 39 inch vertical at the combine to go with a 6'10 wingspan and obvious natural talent. Might be a bit too rich at 28 for most, but his talent is huge. Had that really intriguing intersection of talent and being obviously raw while still being able to produce that makes you dream big. At moments looked like the best player on the court, but had some bad decision making stretches that showed his youth.

I thought the other OTE dude looked pretty damn good too. Really stood out in transition more than probably any other player across the 4 games.

Here's a good breakdown on all the prospects that played and I mostly echo everything said: https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2023-nba-g-league-elite-camp-stock
 
No Ceilings had a section of their podcast today dedicated to Klintman. They are high on him as well. They arent directly comping him to Giannis, but they think there are a lot of similarities (and I agree).

They love his size/ball-handling/passing combo and his late growth spurt has them excited. Both said first round definitely and agreed on somewhere in the 20's, but could be higher if he shows well (which is now impossible because he isnt showing anymore to teams).
 
KOC’s latest big board update:

Black at 6
Hendricks at 7
Whitmore at 9
Bufkin at 10
Klintman at 14
Miller at 15
Bilal at 17

We get Cam? ****ing awesome
 
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