2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[NUMBERICA]

It's crazy. This is actually one of the reasons why I was somewhat skeptical....like why does he take the hardest shots possible? Doesn't matter when he's making them though.

It matters a lot that he's making them. The ability to make stupid shots is what separates teams in the playoffs as offensive sets fall to increasingly dialed in defensive scouting.

It's why the obvious-talent component rises to the top as reliably as it does (relative to other sports' pro leagues).

 

[KqWIN]

It matters a lot that he's making them. The ability to make stupid shots is what separates teams in the playoffs as offensive sets fall to increasingly dialed in defensive scouting.

It's why the obvious-talent component rises to the top as reliably as it does (relative to other sports' pro leagues).

Of course shot making matters....but I will also say that what makes a star a star is the ability to get high percentage shots for himself and his teammates. That component has been severely lacking from Wemby's game so far in his career....but not necessarily in Vegas. He played drastically different in Vegas than he did in France. I think the most telling thing is the FTA. He took 28 FT's in two games in Vegas. He took 38 FT's total last season in 33 games and 570+ minutes. I hope he keeps that up. Can't be a superstar player pull up jumpers only, no matter how cool it looks.

 

[YoungJefe]

Here's where I'd place Wemby and Scoot as best prospects since LeBron:

1. LeBron James
2. Greg Oden
3. Kevin Durant
4. Luka Doncic
5. Anthony Davis
6. Zion Williamson
7. Victor Wemanyama
8. Scoot Henderson
9. John Wall
10. Derrick Rose

If we're trying to remove biases of what they've become in the NBA I'd probably go:
1. LeBron James
2. Victor Wembanyama
3. Anthony Davis
4. Zion Williamson
5. Greg Oden
6. Kevin Durant
7. Derrick Rose
8. John Wall
9. Andrew Wiggins
10. Blake Griffin

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Of course shot making matters....but I will also say that what makes a star a star is the ability to get high percentage shots for himself and his teammates. That component has been severely lacking from Wemby's game so far in his career....but not necessarily in Vegas. He played drastically different in Vegas than he did in France. I think the most telling thing is the FTA. He took 28 FT's in two games in Vegas. He took 38 FT's total last season in 33 games and 570+ minutes. I hope he keeps that up. Can't be a superstar player pull up jumpers only, no matter how cool it looks.

Dog hes 7'5. He can just jump in the air and it's a high quality shot.

And no **** he played different in a more up tempo spaced game that is closer to NBA style.

You are way overthinking Vics game to try and make a point that isn't really there. He's a GOAT prospect.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And defense. Defense. Him making open catch and shoot shots will come with his beautiful stroke.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If Vic stays relatively healthy throughout his career and lands on a franchise that builds well around him he's probably the best player of all time.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I honestly want to stop thinking about Victor after today because if the Jazz have a bottom 3 record and don't get him, it will be a worse feeling than the Clippers game.

I'm just going to get excited about Amen Thompson or someone like that

 

[NUMBERICA]

Of course shot making matters....but I will also say that what makes a star a star is the ability to get high percentage shots for himself and his teammates. That component has been severely lacking from Wemby's game so far in his career....but not necessarily in Vegas. He played drastically different in Vegas than he did in France. I think the most telling thing is the FTA. He took 28 FT's in two games in Vegas. He took 38 FT's total last season in 33 games and 570+ minutes. I hope he keeps that up. Can't be a superstar player pull up jumpers only, no matter how cool it looks.

For sure. And I am a disciple of fundamentals, just wanted to highlight the benefits (and importance) of making wild shots.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I honestly want to stop thinking about Victor after today because if the Jazz have a bottom 3 record and don't get him, it will be a worse feeling than the Clippers game.

I'm just going to get excited about Amen Thompson or someone like that

I will have that feeling if the Jazz don't have a bottom-3 record. I can't have strong feelings about things that are outside the team's control, it's too easy for me to be upset about things that ARE within the team's control.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Dog hes 7'5. He can just jump in the air and it's a high quality shot.

And no **** he played different in a more up tempo spaced game that is closer to NBA style.

You are way overthinking Vics game to try and make a point that isn't really there. He's a GOAT prospect.

That's the thing for me that makes drafting him 1st such an easy call. If all he does is be Gobert and shoot mostly 3s but does it well, then I don't care that much about how well he plays inside. The dude will be able to shoot over basically anyone, and anyone that could bother him he can torch. If he simply plays with a Draymond sensibility on offense (fairly rudimentary "if, then" drop-down menus and options), he will score 30 a game in year 3.

The bar for him to be an unsolvable nightmare for the opposition on both sides of the floor is lower than any prospect ever.

Ever.

 

[KqWIN]

Dog hes 7'5. He can just jump in the air and it's a high quality shot.

And no **** he played different in a more up tempo spaced game that is closer to NBA style.

You are way overthinking Vics game to try and make a point that isn't really there. He's a GOAT prospect.

You’re right…he’s 7’5. He should be averaging more than one FTA a game lol.

7’5 is not worth anything if all you’re using it for is to shoot terribly from floor. That has been his career so far. If he’s a GOAT level prospect, he should have a season where he isn’t shooting horribly from the floor. The reason why he’s shoot horribly is because he doesn’t use his size or skill to get high percentage baskets. Yet anyways.

 

[KqWIN]

For sure. And I am a disciple of fundamentals, just wanted to highlight the benefits (and importance) of making wild shots.

That’s fair. I just think we need to make a distinction between “unique” and “good”. Someone like Porzingis is more unique than Mitchell, for example, but Mitchell is still a much better offensive player.

Wemby has taken these “wild” shots all his career, but they have not gone in a high rate. Before calling the best prospect since LeBron, which is an incredibly high bar to clear, I think I’ll need to see him either make them at a higher rate or use his size and skill to get higher percentage shots. Luka was the MVP of the damn Euroleague coming into the league lol.