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Not to change the subject... but the two pairs of prospects I am mostly split on...

Hawkins vs. Grady D

Wallace vs. Black

Hawkins is just bananas with his motion shooting... and seeing all that and realizing he will go from top of the scouting report to sidebar... and I just think he could go bonkers. If you have to commit attention to that guy I think the paint opens up. I think Dick has some size and does some of the connecting things outside of his shooting... I'm just not sure he has the shifty motion that makes Hawkins so tough to guard (insert joke about Dick motion). Grady also a little more flexible positionally due to his size.

I think I am leaning more towards Wallace and banking on the Kentucky guard stuff to break the tie. Arkansas was just such a tough watch without shooting and I know Black was part of that... but there is a lot to like there and I could see him being pretty awesome in space and feeling dumb about not seeing something obvious.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not to change the subject... but the two pairs of prospects I am mostly split on...

Hawkins vs. Grady D

Wallace vs. Black

Hawkins is just bananas with his motion shooting... and seeing all that and realizing he will go from top of the scouting report to sidebar... and I just think he could go bonkers. If you have to commit attention to that guy I think the paint opens up. I think Dick has some size and does some of the connecting things outside of his shooting... I'm just not sure he has the shifty motion that makes Hawkins so tough to guard (insert joke about Dick motion). Grady also a little more flexible positionally due to his size.

I think I am leaning more towards Wallace and banking on the Kentucky guard stuff to break the tie. Arkansas was just such a tough watch without shooting and I know Black was part of that... but there is a lot to like there and I could see him being pretty awesome in space and feeling dumb about not seeing something obvious.
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i agree entirely with both of your prospect - uh, i'll call them conundrums. i'm such hawkins fanboy, but you have to love dick's length (the jokes write themselves), versatility due to his size and it just seems like there is something special about him - not sure if it's that he has a great motor, high bball iq, deceptive athleticism (a requirment for athletic white dudes), underrated passing skills or what it is, but i can't quite put my finger on it. gun to my head, i probably take Dick if he's a legit 6'7-6'8 and Hawkins is barely 6'5 or shorter. when it comes to dick, size matters. if i'm going to err, i'll err on the side of size.

If Dick is closer to barely 6'7" (strong possibility, imo) or shorter and Hawkins approaches 6'6" (highly doubt it), i probably go Hawkins.

I think i feel mostly the same about Black and Wallace - i kinda hated black most of the time i watched him in the second half of the season and Wallace might have been my favorite OAD guy, but if Black is a legit 6'7 without the hair and Wallace is 6'3" i'd have to go with Black. if they are closer to 6'4 and 6'6, i'd be tempted to take Wallace.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i agree entirely with both of your prospect - uh, i'll call them conundrums. i'm such hawkins fanboy, but you have to love dick's length (the jokes write themselves), versatility due to his size and it just seems like there is something special about him - not sure if it's that he has a great motor, high bball iq, deceptive athleticism (a requirment for athletic white dudes), underrated passing skills or what it is, but i can't quite put my finger on it. gun to my head, i probably take Dick if he's a legit 6'7-6'8 and Hawkins is barely 6'5 or shorter. when it comes to dick, size matters. if i'm going to err, i'll err on the side of size.

If Dick is closer to barely 6'7" (strong possibility, imo) or shorter and Hawkins approaches 6'6" (highly doubt it), i probably go Hawkins.

I think i feel mostly the same about Black and Wallace - i kinda hated black most of the time i watched him in the second half of the season and Wallace might have been my favorite OAD guy, but if Black is a legit 6'7 without the hair and Wallace is 6'3" i'd have to go with Black. if they are closer to 6'4 and 6'6, i'd be tempted to take Wallace.
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Hawkins is the guy this year that every time I watch his videos I’m like… holy **** and move him up a bit mentally. I just imagine him curling and flaring off of Lauri or Kessler screens and either burying threes or we just get a ton of dunks.

I Just really hope the presence of Ochai on the roster doesn’t change where we have Hawkins on the draft board.
 
Dick is much better than Hawkins imo. I could see Hawkins being viewed as the more valuable player down the line, but it's going to be very situational.
 
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