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stitches said:
Yeah... it's hard for me to get a feel for what players like that really are like from highlights. Very low production and defensive problems are hard to gauge on a highlight...
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IMO, Klintman's highlights alone are kinda mundane. He doesn't pop athletically or from a skill standpoint to my eye. The U20 film that people are intrigued by might as well be filmed at a local rec center.

I don't care about his French youth competitions. It's pretty much meaningless to me. I remember getting fooled by ... what was this guy's name... let me check(back after 5 minutes of googling)... Isaia Cordinier. He had some insane highlights from French youth leagues. The competition is just not very good. But yeah... I saw his last game in the playoffs and he looked very intriguing to me. He's still not a ballhandler but what he's asked to do he does well... and he sprinkles in some fascinating flashes of what he could be with some development. I think he will very likely be in my top 15(for whatever it's worth when you know I'm not watching full games of most prospects).
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I care a little bit, but kinda in the same way you would value what a player was like in HS. There was a time when the youth league was all we had on Coulibaly and he was truly a mystery and his highlights/numbers were so eye popping it intrigued me. My thought was that Thompson twins are going lotto by dunking all over some very weak competition, so why not this French guy who looks like Jordan against weak competition but is younger and has better reported measurables? That's what first caught my eye with him. I was talking about giving him a promise at #28 to keep him in this draft and stash him, but he has gone way past that now and looks to be receiving a promise in the lotto.

His senior team career has removed some of the mystery in both good ways in bad ways IMO. I feel incredibly confident in his defense and his effort/hustle, but less optimistic about him being French Jordan. I had pegged a McDaniels/Herb Jones type as his most likely outcome, but his rapid development in the playoffs is starting up the hype machine again. I'm very impressed with ascent into a bigger offensive role. He's probably the most improved player in this draft over the last 12-18 months and I'd bet on the trend to continue.


Reminds me a bit of... wingy version of Vanderbilt when it comes to weird combo of skillsets.
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That's an interesting comparison and I see some similarities....There was a time when Vando was seen as unicorn point forward guy coming out of HS. What makes me uncomfortable about Sidy vs Vanderbilt is that he's not rebounding and getting stocks to the same level. I don't know if Sidy will be good enough at the other things to have a chance to materialize his passing into anything. I've gone back and forth on him, but right now I'm gonna say he's more "unique" than he is "good".

Why are his stocks so low if he's this good of a defender? I didn't love his highlights... so he has to be really good at the things that don't show on highlights for me to be intrigued.
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He is playing in a tougher league, but yeah fair point. I do think he might be a tad overrated on defense because he does the stuff that catches eyes (full court pressure etc.). But his reputation is so strong here I have to respect it. Before this year it was Sidy+Rupert way ahead of Coulibaly, but that has changed rapidly.
 
framer said:
I'm not an expert, but I think the biggest knock on Whitmore is that you can see a bit of Julius Randall in him. Super talented and skilled, but a little inflexible in his team game. It is why Randall can be all NBA but the Knicks would move him pretty easily if given the chance. His "connectivity" score is low.

I haven't watched Whitmore enough to confirm that, but from what I have read there is concern by some for that reason.

I think it is a pretty large nit pik.
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Was tempted to call Whitmore the Dok of SFs -- great physical tools, if very slightly on the short side, but can't pass to save his life.

Now of course that's very unfair (and I was thinking this more as a troll than anything else), as there's all kinds of good stuff Whitmore can do besides dunk (and I actually think there's more passing ability in there somewhere than he's shown yet), but you all do realize that by his latter years at Kansas, Dok was doling out assists better than Whitmore did this past year, don't you?
 
Shortlist of Players Who Could Be In Play at 9: Ausar, Hendricks, Black, Wallace, Coulibaly, Dick

Shortlist of Players Who Could be In Play at 16: George, Bufkin, Hood-Schifino, Jackson, L. Miller, Smith Jr.
 
Today is the first day that David Locke acknowledged the existence of GG Jackson. Granted, it was brief, but the idea was that the Jazz could take their 1st choice of guard at #9 and get GG at #16. It's the reverse of taking a wing like Hendricks at #9 and hoping a guard they like falls to #16.

Personally, I'd take Bilal or Bufkin at #9 and GG at #16.
 
Suns are really eating 15.8M of guaranteed salary with waiving Paul. I’m surprised they couldn’t find a team to just take him or give them anything.

Cap space might be more valuable than we thought.
 
idiot said:
Was tempted to call Whitmore the Dok of SFs -- great physical tools, if very slightly on the short side, but can't pass to save his life.

Now of course that's very unfair (and I was thinking this more as a troll than anything else), as there's all kinds of good stuff Whitmore can do besides dunk (and I actually think there's more passing ability in there somewhere than he's shown yet), but you all do realize that by his latter years at Kansas, Dok was doling out assists better than Whitmore did this past year, don't you?
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I doubt passing will ever be a strength for Whitmore, so he will have to be a very efficient scorer and impactful defender to be an all-star. I think Jaylen Brown is his upside and his downside is probably Miles Bridges?

But even Miles Bridges had a pretty big playmaking boom to his game his 4th year, so it's possible he could do the same, or he doesn't
 
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