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Fair enough I thought the rest of the context in that post made it obvious. And I wasn’t asking for an actual answer just posting some thoughts.

I do find it weird to post pre draft public consensus as any kind of evidence of anything when that evidence is directly contradicted by what actually happened. So we are both a bit confused.

The odds I posted were evidence of public consensus (which again is not mutually exclusive from non public opinion). I did not know you were talking about things that we do not know and cannot know. And again, it was my mistake, but I assumed what assumed because the other path is a useless talking point.
 
The odds I posted were evidence of public consensus (which again is not mutually exclusive from non public opinion). I did not know you were talking about things that we do not know and cannot know. And again, it was my mistake, but I assumed what assumed because the other path is a useless talking point.
No one asked you to engage with me.... I wish you hadn't. I was posting some thoughts and musings, again bringing up how weird it was that the Jazz said he was #9 on their board, and had a theory based on that.

I'm sorry I brought up such a useless talking point that I never asked you to respond to. We all spent plenty of pre draft time in here and knew what the pre draft public consensus was. So your contribution was equally useless.
 
I don't understand why it's a bad outcome to take the #9 guy on your board with pick #9. I guess there's an expectation that someone is going to fall past the pick you had them rated as? It seems foolish to me to operate assuming another team will make a mistake.

What draft spot does it start being a bad outcome to have no one fall and get the guy you had rated at your pick number? If you are picking 2nd and the guy you had rated #1 goes first, is it a bad draft to pick the guy you rated 2nd?
 
I don't understand why it's a bad outcome to take the #9 guy on your board with pick #9. I guess there's an expectation that someone is going to fall past the pick you had them rated as? It seems foolish to me to operate assuming another team will make a mistake.

What draft spot does it start being a bad outcome to have no one fall and get the guy you had rated at your pick number? If you are picking 2nd and the guy you had rated #1 goes first, is it a bad draft to pick the guy you rated 2nd?

Not a bad outcome but I think you should go get your guy. If the cost was too high that is one thing and would be understandable. It was just super weird to specifically say you drafted the 9th guy on your board at 9. No teams ever say that. They’ll normally say he was higher on our board than that, etc.
 
Fair enough I thought the rest of the context in that post made it obvious. And I wasn’t asking for an actual answer just posting some thoughts.

I do find it weird to post pre draft public consensus as any kind of evidence of anything when that evidence is directly contradicted by what actually happened. So we are both a bit confused.
Yeah we just would never get that it’s common knowledge among nba front offices that there was a drop off after 8, 9 or any number. I think there were a few tiers but I think Hendricks would have been in a similar enough tier on many big boards as guys like Walker, Dick, Cason, Bilal. I think the reason #9 sucked as a draft placement was not a fall off to the next tier but it was nearing the end of a tier so you’d get what was left. I would have had Taylor ahead of Walker and Bilal. I’d put Bilal above him at this point but that’s about it. I had him and Walker neck and neck and would probably be the same today… since Taylor is our dude I will continue to ride with him.

I think this board was likely on to Bilal earlier than the general draft public because of @KqWIN … I’d say we were higher on Taylor earlier as well. NBA media opinion on him ended up jumping to the same place many of us had him for months. Bilal though had one of the most unique rises in draft memory. His rise was like a rocket and it happened in different timing than normal.
 
Not a bad outcome but I think you should go get your guy. If the cost was too high that is one thing and would be understandable. It was just super weird to specifically say you drafted the 9th guy on your board at 9. No teams ever say that. They’ll normally say he was higher on our board than that, etc.
If we moved up I really liked Ausar and liked Black as well. If the price was one future pick I’d do it… but I’m old enough to remember a super genius who said they’d trade #9 and Ochai to move up and people around here freaked the hell out. Who’s doing Taylor and Ochai for Ausar? Would you add another pick? That would be my guess at what the price to move up was. I’d pay it cuz Ausar looks like a stud.
 
It’s too early for this, but let’s do it anyways. How high does Ausar go in an overreaction redraft? Scoot and Amen have been injured, but not good when they played. Miller has been ok…but maybe has more potential than Ausar?

I love watching Ausar play, but I think his touch might not be great. Not a believer in the shooting ever coming around but he might not need it to be an all star.
 
It’s too early for this, but let’s do it anyways. How high does Ausar go in an overreaction redraft? Scoot and Amen have been injured, but not good when they played. Miller has been ok…but maybe has more potential than Ausar?

I love watching Ausar play, but I think his touch might not be great. Not a believer in the shooting ever coming around but he might not need it to be an all star.

Ausar and Keyonte both go 2 or 3 in a re-draft.
 
Ausar and Keyonte both go 2 or 3 in a re-draft.

Hmm….I don’t know where to put Key or Bilal. As much as I rag on TH for being immediately sent to the G-League, the other side of that is I think it’s impressive that Key has taken command of the starting position of a team that is actually trying to win. Black has looked the part as well despite a tiny offensive role.

The Twins are also a bit older, this is their age 21 season. Same for Miller. Scoot….I have to say I’m suspicious. He was not good in the G-League last season. So while it’s something to be #3 pick, he also was the #3 pick on the basis of being impressive two years ago. Did not look like the athlete he was advertised as to my eye.
 
Hmm….I don’t know where to put Key or Bilal. As much as I rag on TH for being immediately sent to the G-League, the other side of that is I think it’s impressive that Key has taken command of the starting position of a team that is actually trying to win. Black has looked the part as well despite a tiny offensive role.

The Twins are also a bit older, this is their age 21 season. Same for Miller. Scoot….I have to say I’m suspicious. He was not good in the G-League last season. So while it’s something to be #3 pick, he also was the #3 pick on the basis of being impressive two years ago. Did not look like the athlete he was advertised as to my eye.

Bilal should be up there as well.
 
Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Ausar
Key?
Amen
Bilal?
Black
Walker
Cason
Taylor

Something like that imo
 
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