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2024-2025 Tank Race

Hypothetically, whoever the Jazz draft turns out to be a top 15 player at the end of their second season. You are the Jazz GM and are tasked with putting together a championship run over the remaining rookie pay deal. What would you do? How successful do you think that team would be? Lots of love from an English Jazz fan.
 
alano0031 said:
Hypothetically, whoever the Jazz draft turns out to be a top 15 player at the end of their second season. You are the Jazz GM and are tasked with putting together a championship run over the remaining rookie pay deal. What would you do? How successful do you think that team would be? Lots of love from an English Jazz fan.
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We have a lot of expiring contracts, so free agency is in play by then. We also have a lot of young guys and picks, so trades are in scope as well.

The FO would have a ton of options.

(Is this what you are looking for, or are you hoping for a more detailed/specific plan?)
 
SoberasHotRod said:
We have a lot of expiring contracts, so free agency is in play by then. We also have a lot of young guys and picks, so trades are in scope as well.

The FO would have a ton of options.

(Is this what you are looking for, or are you hoping for a more detailed/specific plan?)
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I'd love to hear people's specific plans. What I laid out is everyone's dreams after this season of tanking. Obviously people are expecting Flagg to be the most likely draftee to be that player but it could be someone else.

Also as you said Utah have lots of options with regard to expanding the available talent. Whether that is through free agency (Not traditionally one of Utah's strengths) or through using the picks for trading purposes.
 
alano0031 said:
I'd love to hear people's specific plans. What I laid out is everyone's dreams after this season of tanking. Obviously people are expecting Flagg to be the most likely draftee to be that player but it could be someone else.

Also as you said Utah have lots of options with regard to expanding the available talent. Whether that is through free agency (Not traditionally one of Utah's strengths) or through using the picks for trading purposes.
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Have you seen this thread:

SoberasHotRod

Thread 'Looking ahead to 2025-2026'

This has been discussed a little bit already, but I think it's an interesting topic and wanted to see how the board is generally feeling. If we get Flagg in the draft, or whoever you think we should get with the first pick, what should the Jazz do then?

Let's pretend that we have traded away one of Collins or Sexton at the deadline, we land Flagg in the draft, we owe a top 8 protected pick to OKC in the 2026 draft that looks very strong, our young guys are making slow, but steady progress. We will likely have a bunch of expiring contracts. How should the FO approach the rest of the off...
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SoberasHotRod said:
Have you seen this thread:

SoberasHotRod

Thread 'Looking ahead to 2025-2026'

This has been discussed a little bit already, but I think it's an interesting topic and wanted to see how the board is generally feeling. If we get Flagg in the draft, or whoever you think we should get with the first pick, what should the Jazz do then?

Let's pretend that we have traded away one of Collins or Sexton at the deadline, we land Flagg in the draft, we owe a top 8 protected pick to OKC in the 2026 draft that looks very strong, our young guys are making slow, but steady progress. We will likely have a bunch of expiring contracts. How should the FO approach the rest of the off...
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No, thank you. I'll give it a read.
 
Don't know where else to put it, but Locke dropping some truth bombs (imo) the last couple days on his show:
  • Jazz have done a masterful job tanking this year
  • The tanking (or bottom-5 finish, as he prefers) model works almost all of the time, but only if your expectations are to build a playoff team, and only if you commit to 3+ years
  • There is no model for building a championship team
  • It's quite rare to have someone you drafted after tanking lead you to a championship, and it hasn't happened for many years
  • There's a real conversation to be had about whether tanking is a better long-term team strategy (since it's not a reliable path to championships) than just trying to keep your team at as high a level as possible
  • Flagg is legitimately a highly ranked prospect and there should be high hopes for him, but several somewhat-recent prospects that had higher expectations at draft time either didn't work out well, or didn't quite turn out to be what was hoped for them
  • It looks like a 2-player draft. We're not really likely to get anywhere (beyond getting a solid rotation player -- a Jabari Smith type) from this year's tank if we don't end up with one of them
 
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idiot said:
Don't know where else to put it, but Locke dropping some truth bombs (imo) the last couple days on his show:
  • Jazz have done a masterful job tanking this year
  • The tanking (or bottom-5 finish, as he prefers) model works almost all of the time, but only if your expectations are to build a playoff team, and only if you commit to 3+ years
  • There is no model for building a championship team
  • It's quite rare to have someone you drafted after tanking lead you to a championship, and it hasn't happened for many years
  • There's a real conversation to be had about whether tanking is a better long-term team strategy (since it's not a reliable path to championships) than just trying to keep your team at as high a level as possible
  • Flagg is legitimately a highly ranked prospect and there should be high hopes for him, but several somewhat-recent prospects that had higher expectations at draft time either didn't work out well, or didn't quite turn out to be what was hoped for them
  • It looks like a 2-player draft. We're not really likely to get anywhere (beyond getting a solid rotation player -- a Jabari Smith type) from this year's tank if we don't end up with one of them
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I think Flagg and Harper are potential franchise-defining players. But I'd say that Ace Bailey and Tre Johnson have clear All Star potential and are markedly more than just rotation players. Ace Bailey has a higher ceiling than some of the players he's getting comped to--e.g., Jabari Smith, MPJ, Rashard Lewis, etc.

Derik Queen is interesting too. He's an advantage creator, and it's possible to build an offense around him. Jazz would need to re-shuffle their frontcourt strategy.
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I think Flagg and Harper are potential franchise-defining players. But I'd say that Ace Bailey and Tre Johnson have clear All Star potential and are markedly more than just rotation players. Ace Bailey has a higher ceiling than some of the players he's getting comped to--e.g., Jabari Smith, MPJ, Rashard Lewis, etc.
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We'll hope so, if we end up with one of them. I don't have the faith you do, but drafts always turn out with some differences from expectations.
 
It would be great if the Wiz win one more and we have the luxury of trying to beat Minny one more time. That win we had is the difference now. Another win could seal the play-in game vs the playoffs at this point.
 
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