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Handlogten's Heros said:
Many thanks. The off the dribble jumper looks smooth in the highlights but still looks like it has a way to go. Which is why these numbers are valuable... he makes every shot in the mixtape lol. Maybe not #2 on the big board but still top 5.
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I think the synergy numbers are useful....Not exactly sure how to use the percentiles though. It's just based on efficiency with no volume considered. That's definitely worth something, but probably similar to looking at raw 3FG% to see who the best shooters are in the NBA. If you looked at the NBA percentiles, everyone who is you'd expect is good is good, but still maybe not exactly what you would have expected.
 
KqWIN said:
So Tyler Smith is the same age, played on the same team, and was much better than Matas this year. Does that mean anything?
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I think starting the season with an injury is not ideal. I just think they are different players and Matas has a higher upside but his role is more difficult so it may not come together.
 
KqWIN said:
I think the synergy numbers are useful....Not exactly sure how to use the percentiles though. It's just based on efficiency with no volume considered. That's definitely worth something, but probably similar to looking at raw 3FG% to see who the best shooters are in the NBA. If you looked at the NBA percentiles, everyone who is you'd expect is good is good, but still maybe not exactly what you would have expected.
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I was specifically interested in the pullup and rim finishing. He looks like he is great at the around the rim stuff because he looks like a quick one foot leaper who can finish with either hand. I am not sure how 60th percentile or whatever translates for a wing. I will say that is good?

The pullup I was interested as he has a good cadence on the dribble pullup where its a slight hesitation but I can't tell if he's going to pullup or drive. Between that and the other shooting stuff that's the making of a 20 ppg guy who spreads the floor. The pullup jumper numbers being low (volume would matter a bit) is slightly concerning for where I wanted to go with Knecht but I think it obviously could get much better.

And without the full access its hard to compare but still fun in a nerdy way.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think starting the season with an injury is not ideal. I just think they are different players and Matas has a higher upside but his role is more difficult so it may not come together.
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I hear ya....I definitely think Matas looks more skilled/fluid with the ball, but in the same way that we kinda overlooked Leonard Miller (I guess it's still tbd on that), I wonder if we should respect that level of production. GLeague ignite was also getting stomped all year, so I would expect all their numbers to be pretty bad.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I was specifically interested in the pullup and rim finishing. He looks like he is great at the around the rim stuff because he looks like a quick one foot leaper who can finish with either hand. I am not sure how 60th percentile or whatever translates for a wing. I will say that is good?

The pullup I was interested as he has a good cadence on the dribble pullup where its a slight hesitation but I can't tell if he's going to pullup or drive. Between that and the other shooting stuff that's the making of a 20 ppg guy who spreads the floor. The pullup jumper numbers being low (volume would matter a bit) is slightly concerning for where I wanted to go with Knecht but I think it obviously could get much better.

And without the full access its hard to compare but still fun in a nerdy way.
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The percentile stuff....it's still a little iffy more me and I also think people have used synergy to chop up shooting samples to a very small sample that makes a player look much better/worse. I think seeing the distribution of playtypes/volume is really useful though. It's good to have all the information.
 
KqWIN said:
I hear ya....I definitely think Matas looks more skilled/fluid with the ball, but in the same way that we kinda overlooked Leonard Miller (I guess it's still tbd on that), I wonder if we should respect that level of production. GLeague ignite was also getting stomped all year, so I would expect all their numbers to be pretty bad.
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I loved Leonard Miller doe. Its a good thing I ain't GM cuz Miller was coming off the board at 16. I haven't watched enough of Smith but he seems like the bad kind of tweener... Miller seems like the good kind of tweener but his block numbers are a bit troubling for what I had hoped for him. I think Smith is a good bet in the teens/20s though. He also has a boring name and game. If we got him with a pick in the 20s or 30s that's absolutely a win.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I loved Leonard Miller doe. Its a good thing I ain't GM cuz Miller was coming off the board at 16. I haven't watched enough of Smith but he seems like the bad kind of tweener... Miller seems like the good kind of tweener but his block numbers are a bit troubling for what I had hoped for him. I think Smith is a good bet in the teens/20s though. He also has a boring name and game. If we got him with a pick in the 20s or 30s that's absolutely a win.
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If his name was Smith Tyler in stead of Tyler Smith, he'd be 5 places higher on consensus draft boards.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Let’s not overthink these Kentucky guards. They’re both going to be good in the league. It’s proven at this point.
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Our luck we end up picking the one that didn't work. We'd think we getting Booker and get Marquis Teague.

I think both will be good. Rob I am more worried about and think he will have to be phenomenal as a ball in hand guy to be a starter.
 
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