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I think at this stage of team building you go for BPA/upside and figure out fit later, particularly as we are not certain Keyonte is a superstar. Imagine passing on a quality big man last year because we had Kessler (who was compared to Rudy by some)
 
latin jazz said:
I think at this stage of team building you go for BPA/upside and figure out fit later, particularly as we are not certain Keyonte is a superstar. Imagine passing on a quality big man last year because we had Kessler (who was compared to Rudy by some)
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At the same time, BPA/upside is just as much as a crapshoot. You may think they are but then they turn out to not be in hindsight
 
kcgar said:
At the same time, BPA/upside is just as much as a crapshoot. You may think they are but then they turn out to not be in hindsight
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More reason to go BPA. If you’re letting fit get in the way, you’re assuming the two things go right. If that happens to be the case….well damn how terrible it must be to have two good players. Just like you can’t predict BPA, you can’t predict that the guy who “fits” will actually pan out. With no guarantees you shouldn’t let fit get in the way of taking your best shot unless the situation is very established.

Unless you want to go forward with Sexton and make him a cornerstone, the Jazz don’t have anyone on roster that should prevent any kind of player from being drafted.
 
KqWIN said:
More reason to go BPA. If you’re letting fit get in the way, you’re assuming the two things go right. If that happens to be the case….well damn how terrible it must be to have two good players. Just like you can’t predict BPA, you can’t predict that the guy who “fits” will actually pan out. With no guarantees you shouldn’t let fit get in the way of taking your best shot unless the situation is very established.

Unless you want to go forward with Sexton and make him a cornerstone, the Jazz don’t have anyone on roster that should prevent any kind of player from being drafted.
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Basically this
 
Like if I have a choice at a tiny PG and a big wing, the tiny PG has to be significantly better to be drafted over the big wing unless I just have to swing on a PG because I have everything else.

I just can't believe that teams are meticulously rating these guys out to the point that if Player X is rated "84" that they are 100/100 times getting drafted over Player Y who is rated "83"
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think BPA is kind of a crock of **** and is just a label to justify a decision without having to go into detail
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It's pretty simple. We just don't think the Jazz roster precludes us from drafting another player. What more detail do you need more than that? If you believe there is a reason why we cannot draft a certain type of player, that deserves some detailed explanation. This idea that teams are meticulously rating guys 84 and 83 is your own creation. Nobody is talking about that. What we do know is there are some players on certain rosters that are good enough/important enough to influence draft decisions. For example, if the Pistons think Cade is their franchise guy it makes sense to draft with him in mind. The only player the Jazz have that's for sure good/important enough is Lauri, but he fits with literally any kind of player. Maybe you think Sexton or Keyonte is good enough to make draft decisions around, that would be the discussion point against BPA.

If you think bigger wings are inherently more valuable than small guards in general, that is also saying BPA. The value of a player's archetype is obviously included in how good you think a prospect is. BPA is a statement about the team context and whether or not that should preclude that specific team from drafting certain players.

If you noticed, @latin jazz didn't make a comment about meticulously ranking guys. He made a comment saying Keyonte and Kessler should not preclude us from drafting anyone. That is what the BPA discussion is.
 
kcgar said:
He is not my number 1, but if you got him I don’t feel like he would fit well with Keyonte, especially with respect to defense. So, in my opinion you would need to trade Keyonte or relegate him to the 6th man
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I think Shepherd pairs fine with Keyonte, but yes, in general, the guard rotation would need to be addressed/cleaned up. I think he’s be the best prospect of legit stardom of those dudes (he’s orders of magnitude better defensively than Sexton or Keyonte, an absolutely bonkers shooting talent, better intangibles/feel/IQ).

But I guess mostly what I’m saying is he’s the only player I’d trade up for. Standing pat is fine. Reed is the only player in this draft that looks actually special and translatable to me, but nothing is guaranteed.
 
KqWIN said:
More reason to go BPA. If you’re letting fit get in the way, you’re assuming the two things go right. If that happens to be the case….well damn how terrible it must be to have two good players. Just like you can’t predict BPA, you can’t predict that the guy who “fits” will actually pan out. With no guarantees you shouldn’t let fit get in the way of taking your best shot unless the situation is very established.

Unless you want to go forward with Sexton and make him a cornerstone, the Jazz don’t have anyone on roster that should prevent any kind of player from being drafted.
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I usually lean a little more fit than BPA than most here most of the time, but I have so little confidence at the top of this draft (I like Castle, but does he end up like Antonio Daniels [a player I like] but tougher?).
 
Last year, we took three draft picks. We have the picks this year and three picks next year. We have to make a trade because there is no way we want a roster that young. I wouldn't be surprised if we try and move up in this draft.
 
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