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This shot chart looks brutal! o_O Is there ANYTHING he's good at? Besides being big and athletic?
 
His play when Dillingham was off the court really puts me at ease. Definitely suggests he was being limited.
Isn't there worry that with any other good ballhandler he would always take the backseat? If he did it with Dillingham, wouldn't he do the same with... any starting lead guard really... Keyonte... Sexton... etc. Meaning - what version of Sheppard do you think you are getting on an NBA team - the 25% usage version or the 15% version? And is the 15% version providing enough to justify being on the floor?
 
Saw a Reddit post about Malauch that basically called him a complete fraud….or at least his case as a prospect is fraudulent. Whenever he’s played in a competitive game he’s score like 2 points every time. The only time he’s been productive is during games where it didn’t matter for either team and teams weren’t playing their players.
One of those dudes who looks insanely athletic next to mediocre competition but against regular high major players looks like he plays in quicksand. Plus really weak. May just need time to fill out, but why go to Duke? He's going to recruited over in a year and have to transfer go pro.

I just don't think the game in Africa is advanced enough yet to develop guys at a high level yet. A lot of these guys need to spend 4 years in college or go overseas to play on a developmental team.
 
Another thing I came across in my deep dive with Sheppard, only 45% of his baskets were assisted this season. That is a mark lower than Dillingham who is (rightfully) labeled the best shot creator in this draft. When you see 18% USG and 70% TS you might think someone like Gobert or a strict spot up shooter like Grayson Allen this year....someone who gets the large majority of their buckets assisted. Sheppard is not that guy. That's lower than Collin Sexton this year.
He's like... Stockton... in the absolute ideal case scenario. In the 99.99th percentile outcome... I just don't think he gets there or anywhere close... in the 50th percentile scenario he's like... a more defensively attentive Kendall Marshall or something like that.
 
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One of those dudes who looks insanely athletic next to mediocre competition but against regular high major players looks like he plays in quicksand. Plus really weak. May just need time to fill out, but why go to Duke? He's going to recruited over in a year and have to transfer go pro.

I just don't think the game in Africa is advanced enough yet to develop guys at a high level yet. A lot of these guys need to spend 4 years in college or go overseas to play on a developmental team.

I agree. I think Malauch definitely has real talent....he will probably get worked by upperclassmen bigs in the ACC. Might be a situation where he plays like 5-10 minutes a game.
 
Isn't there worry that with any other good ballhandler he would always take the backseat? If he did it with Dillingham, wouldn't he do the same with... any starting lead guard really... Keyonte... Sexton... etc. Meaning - what version of Sheppard do you think you are getting on an NBA team - the 25% usage version or the 15% version? And is the 15% version providing enough to justify being on the floor?

I think there is some positive to being more like Dillingham. Dilly is always going to be the top dog (ironically coming off the bench for Kentucky). That is what his role has always been and will be in the NBA for better or worse. I think if you're looking for the guy who is most likely to be a lead guard in this draft it's definitely him. Having said that, when it comes to Sheppard I see this situation differently. I think being able to be effective with and without the ball is a virtue. I think you can always ask a player to shoot more/handle the ball more....that's not a difficult conversation. But you can only do that if they have the ability to do so and I think Shep has demonstrated that he can. It's kind of hard to believe that guys like Hali and Shai were seen as low potential prospects coming into the draft, but that was an oversight due to looking at the role they played instead of their actual ability. If differing is the issue but not ability, I think that's an easy thing to solve.


There are no guarantees, but Shep has a lot going for him imo. The play without Dilly, the amount of his shots that are unassisted, the peripheral indicators like his extreme steal rate, the fact that we've seen this so many times with Coach Cal.
He's like... Stockton... in the absolute ideal case scenario. In the 99.99th percentile outcome... I just don't think he gets there or anywhere close... in the 50th percentile scenario he's like... a more defensively attentive Kendall Marshall or something like that.

Had discussions with others about this topic. Likelihood is that he's more of a super role player....but I still feel like that's not a bad outcome. Like he has the things you like Kendall Marshall for, but what if Kendall Marshall had Shep's shooting and defense? Totally different outcome for him. I think he could be a mix of several good role players. TJ McConnell with a sniperis what I think @Handlogten's Heros compared him to. I could see him being a mix of McConnell, Seth Curry, Pat Beverley. Maybe that mix doesn't amount to an all star (or maybe it does), but that's still pretty damn good for a middling outcome.
 
I think there is some positive to being more like Dillingham. Dilly is always going to be the top dog (ironically coming off the bench for Kentucky). That is what his role has always been and will be in the NBA for better or worse. I think if you're looking for the guy who is most likely to be a lead guard in this draft it's definitely him. Having said that, when it comes to Sheppard I see this situation differently. I think being able to be effective with and without the ball is a virtue. I think you can always ask a player to shoot more/handle the ball more....that's not a difficult conversation. But you can only do that if they have the ability to do so and I think Shep has demonstrated that he can. It's kind of hard to believe that guys like Hali and Shai were seen as low potential prospects coming into the draft, but that was an oversight due to looking at the role they played instead of their actual ability. If differing is the issue but not ability, I think that's an easy thing to solve.


There are no guarantees, but Shep has a lot going for him imo. The play without Dilly, the amount of his shots that are unassisted, the peripheral indicators like his extreme steal rate, the fact that we've seen this so many times with Coach Cal.


Had discussions with others about this topic. Likelihood is that he's more of a super role player....but I still feel like that's not a bad outcome. Like he has the things you like Kendall Marshall for, but what if Kendall Marshall had Shep's shooting and defense? Totally different outcome for him. I think he could be a mix of several good role players. TJ McConnell with a sniperis what I think @Handlogten's Heros compared him to. I could see him being a mix of McConnell, Seth Curry, Pat Beverley. Maybe that mix doesn't amount to an all star (or maybe it does), but that's still pretty damn good for a middling outcome.
The thing is... McConnell/Pat Bev/Seth combo still doesn't sound great to me as a top pick. And I am not exactly sure at what level people expect his shooting and defense to be? Because Marshall shot 37% for his career, same with Patt Bev, McConnell -35%, Curry 43%. I think 43% is VERY ambitious. I think about 38% is more realistic... so... practically Marshall/Bev... And I'm not totally sold on him being a great defender at the next level either. He has the hands and feel... I'm just not sure he's big and long enough and laterally mobile enough. I think he has the feel and some ability on that end to not be a liability, I am just not sure he'd be great. I'm just having hard time formulating a realistic high end scenario that is exciting to me... maybe it's a failure of my imagination and Shai definitely fits that description that I had trouble imagining being amazing pre-draft... but with him... at least he had the size and length. I don't know... I will be pondering this one until the draft, but right now I'd probably have him outside my top 10... is that crazy?
 
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