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2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

KqWIN said:
Even if Lauri was at his peak this is bad news, shows that the value of this archetype is down—or maybe it was never as high as we thought. Cam played better than Lauri this past season and his value seems to be half of what it was.

I think Lauri is going to be hard to move. He is both twice the money and twice the years. We hear it over and over again, the new CBA is making teams more financially conscientious. I doubt there are many teams who are wanting to take on that massive commitment.

Seems likely we'll bring Lauri back and hope we don't just throw away our pick.
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I think there is a massive difference between peak Lauri and peak Johnson which justifies the cost difference... if he can get back to it. And I struggle to call it "news". If they limit the market just to the top 10/11 teams they are also narrowing what they want back so might find it difficult.

I don't think the second part is out of the question though... if we are already in the market that says Lauri is worth not much or even negative then what choice do you have? Cut elsewhere and play the cards on the table. If every dollar counts more then Kessler should have wild value... move him, Collins and Sexton.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think there is a massive difference between peak Lauri and peak Johnson which justifies the cost difference... if he can get back to it. And I struggle to call it "news". If they limit the market just to the top 10/11 teams they are also narrowing what they want back so might find it difficult.

I don't think the second part is out of the question though... if we are already in the market that says Lauri is worth not much or even negative then what choice do you have? Cut elsewhere and play the cards on the table. If every dollar counts more then Kessler should have wild value... move him, Collins and Sexton.
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The difference between the two doesn't change the idea that the value has dropped for this player type. If Cam's is less, so is Lauri's. It wasn't poor play that has seemingly dropped Cam's value. I also don't think many teams are wanting the expensive upgrade over Cam. Maybe in a CBA where teams routinely had 3+ big money players, but now that's a luxury teams can't afford.

If our pick wasn't at risk, I'd be all for keeping Lauri. We might have to do that anyways and if so you have to get rid of every other vet that can play or it is negligent. I'm more optimistic about AA doing that than DA, hopefully that proves to be true. If there's any hesitation to not trade Collins/Sexton/etc because it's not good value I'm going to lose it.
 
KqWIN said:
The difference between the two doesn't change the idea that the value has dropped for this player type. If Cam's is less, so is Lauri's. It wasn't poor play that has seemingly dropped Cam's value. I also don't think many teams are wanting the expensive upgrade over Cam. Maybe in a CBA where teams routinely had 3+ big money players, but now that's a luxury teams can't afford.

If our pick wasn't at risk, I'd be all for keeping Lauri. We might have to do that anyways and if so you have to get rid of every other vet that can play or it is negligent. I'm more optimistic about AA doing that than DA, hopefully that proves to be true. If there's any hesitation to not trade Collins/Sexton/etc because it's not good value I'm going to lose it.
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I guess I see them at their peak as different player types... not quite to the level of the example I am going to give but difference between SGA and Sexton. That is an extreme example but teams sometimes pay extra for the premium version... but if the news is true I agree... I think there has been a shift in the market for expensive players... so yeah its not great if its real.

I have no idea how we approach things but I would still think we could get a couple picks for Lauri and that may not be represented in this news because it seems Nets are looking for something specific. Like if we moved Lauri to Det for 26/28 first and expiring salary is that less value than Cam + 19 for like 10? I could see both deals happening because its not a perfectly efficient market but if they are just looking for a move up deal then I wonder if they narrowed the market too much?

I think the KD trade will be the one that determines what happens with Lauri. Do we enter as a third team there and send him to Phoenix? I don't think Detroit does anything. I could see the Heat swing and miss and then pivot to Lauri. I'm ready to settle a bit but wouldn't do it for like just the Milwaukee pick and Dame or something like that.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I guess I see them at their peak as different player types... not quite to the level of the example I am going to give but difference between SGA and Sexton. That is an extreme example but teams sometimes pay extra for the premium version... but if the news is true I agree... I think there has been a shift in the market for expensive players... so yeah its not great if its real.

I have no idea how we approach things but I would still think we could get a couple picks for Lauri and that may not be represented in this news because it seems Nets are looking for something specific. Like if we moved Lauri to Det for 26/28 first and expiring salary is that less value than Cam + 19 for like 10? I could see both deals happening because its not a perfectly efficient market but if they are just looking for a move up deal then I wonder if they narrowed the market too much?

I think the KD trade will be the one that determines what happens with Lauri. Do we enter as a third team there and send him to Phoenix? I don't think Detroit does anything. I could see the Heat swing and miss and then pivot to Lauri. I'm ready to settle a bit but wouldn't do it for like just the Milwaukee pick and Dame or something like that.
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Yeah I'd say that's pretty extreme lol. IMO, it would be more like Sexton and Fox if Sexton had just came off a better season than Fox did (maybe he did). Teams do pay for a premium sometimes, but I think it's tough to justify when you're only getting to the borderline all star level and the player type is also a complimentary player. Lauri is the best off ball player in the game, which makes him easy to fit next to stars on the court. But his contract makes it tough to fit next to star players on the cap sheet.

Giannis wanting to stay would be a huge bonus for the Jazz IMO. It opens up Lauri to SAS which is one of the better destinations and opens up a Dame trade which is a great destination for Collins+Sexton.
 
Sexton + Collins as a duo probably do more harm to the tank than Lauri alone. Wonder if you could pawn both of them off to MIA.
 
Last year I was more optimistic than just about anyone about our tanking chances, this year I'm actually worried if we keep what we have. Need to at least trade Sexton+Collins to offset natural improvement from the young guys. Think last year required a lot of luck and grimey stuff from above which I wouldn't rely on again. I'd be open to trading Key/Kesser if the value is right just in case a team values their current contract+production.

If Lauri's value is zero or less, I say we keep him. If he's playing you out of tank position, maybe you can then trade him. If not, we're in tank position and just keep him. But I want to make sure I'm in the 5-6 range, otherwise it gets uncomfortable on lottery night. But I think we'll do what's necessary if it ever gets close. If AA has to eat some **** for reversing his mic drop moment, so be it. Better to look like a fool for backpedaling than to look like a fool for losing your pick.
 
KqWIN said:
Last year I was more optimistic than just about anyone about our tanking chances, this year I'm actually worried if we keep what we have. Need to at least trade Sexton+Collins to offset natural improvement from the young guys. Think last year required a lot of luck and grimey stuff from above which I wouldn't rely on again. I'd be open to trading Key/Kesser if the value is right just in case a team values their current contract+production.

If Lauri's value is zero or less, I say we keep him. If he's playing you out of tank position, maybe you can then trade him. If not, we're in tank position and just keep him. But I want to make sure I'm in the 5-6 range, otherwise it gets uncomfortable on lottery night. But I think we'll do what's necessary if it ever gets close. If AA has to eat some **** for reversing his mic drop moment, so be it. Better to look like a fool for backpedaling than to look like a fool for losing your pick.
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I'm with you on this one. I would try to move Collins, Sexton, and Clarkson this offseason, but if we couldn’t trade Collins and Sexton, I would trade Lauri (I’m pretty sure some teams would be interested). But if we can trade Collins and Sexton, I’d keep Lauri, and if he threatens the tank, I would trade him at the trade deadline.
 
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