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2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

Handlogten's Heros said:
I see that but Benny makes 3M more this year and will make like $20M the following year?

Maybe they move them both for a cheap replacement... if it was me I'd move Benny first and figure out Walker later but depends on the offers I guess.

I'd do 21 for Walker in a damn second but I'd guess they could do a little better than that.
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I guess the way I see it is that Walker has zero path to increased playing time until Toppin is gone. All he can really do is hope injuries happen. And the more he sits, the less value he has (if he still has any value at all). Ben actually plays for them. He contributes and has a chance to increase his value. If he earns a big and increased deal they can't afford, they can work to trade him then. I'm sure Ben could be had for a price right now, but I think it makes more sense for the guy who doesn't play and cannot play over the guy who is a big contributor. If they don't do anything with Walker, he will get traded for a similar price to the one they paid to get Toppin aka next to nothing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

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This trade would set us up so well in 27 and 29. KD either bounces or takes up an amazing amount of the cap. Donte was so good for them. Rudy is obvious... also removes 2 of their youth swings. Would further solidify their salary inflexibility. They also losing NAW this offseason. This is a huge development if it happens.
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Meh, if I am the Suns I make that trade regardless of what KD wants. Even if KD doesn't re-sign with the Wolves, it still let's them reset their cap. Win for both teams.
 
HermanG said:
Well KD tries to will himself to Spurs who apparently havent even made an offer. Minnesota apparently has the best bid but KD refuses to go there. Houston is lowballing Suns thinking they have leverage when KD doesnt prefer them and apparently Heat are just too poor.

Thats the situation in a nutshell. Everyone is also talking this and that.
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Durant is close to washed. He's still a bucket-getter but is a a brittle shell of his peak, doesn't elevate his teammates, no longer contributes to high-level winning, and doesn't lead. He won his two titles riding the coattails of Steph Curry.

I understand that Minnesota wants to win and covets and NBA title, but they've only made 4 straight postseason runs after making the playoffs just once in preceding 17 years. Pushing all their chips in to win that title for a way past his peak, injury prone, former superstar demonstrates a short-term perspective that risks fast tracking their return to the lottery treadmill if (and likely once) this gamble doesn't pay off. Even if it does, one NBA title isn't sufficient return for 17 years of losing. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but if I were a Minnesota fan, I'd be more concerned about building a foundation for long-term competitive success, not making desperate throws of the dice to win a title in the short-run but that elevates the risk of returning back to non-competitive irrelevance.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

View: https://x.com/Fullcourtpass/status/1935103146780500456


This trade would set us up so well in 27 and 29. KD either bounces or takes up an amazing amount of the cap. Donte was so good for them. Rudy is obvious... also removes 2 of their youth swings. Would further solidify their salary inflexibility. They also losing NAW this offseason. This is a huge development if it happens.
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This trade sets us up to trade for Edwards in 26 or 27 by giving them back the one thing they need the most when restarting their rebuild... - their own picks and swaps...
 
Schrödinger's Gerbil said:
Durant is close to washed. He's still a bucket-getter but is a a brittle shell of his peak, doesn't elevate his teammates, no longer contributes to high-level winning, and doesn't lead. He won his two titles riding the coattails of Steph Curry.

I understand that Minnesota wants to win and covets and NBA title, but they've only made 4 straight postseason runs after making the playoffs just once in preceding 17 years. Pushing all their chips in to win that title for a way past his peak, injury prone, former superstar demonstrates a short-term perspective that risks fast tracking their return to the lottery treadmill if (and likely once) this gamble doesn't pay off. Even if it does, one NBA title isn't sufficient return for 17 years of losing. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but if I were a Minnesota fan, I'd be more concerned about building a foundation for long-term competitive success, not making desperate throws of the dice to win a title in the short-run but that elevates the risk of returning back to non-competitive irrelevance.
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To be fair, Minny package is centered around Rudy who is also out of his prime. They wanna keep Reid and probably have to pay him at least low end starter money so better make him a starter.

I agree about KD and have always found his player-GMing more obnoxious than that of Lebron or some other superstars.
 
framer said:
Meh, if I am the Suns I make that trade regardless of what KD wants. Even if KD doesn't re-sign with the Wolves, it still let's them reset their cap. Win for both teams.
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Wolves are the ones holding things up. That is the offer if KD is okay going there... that is the impression I get.
 
HermanG said:
To be fair, Minny package is centered around Rudy who is also out of his prime. They wanna keep Reid and probably have to pay him at least low end starter money so better make him a starter.

I agree about KD and have always found his player-GMing more obnoxious than that of Lebron or some other superstars.
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Nobody has left bigger deuces in the Player Empowerment Era than Harden and KD
 
HermanG said:
To be fair, Minny package is centered around Rudy who is also out of his prime. They wanna keep Reid and probably have to pay him at least low end starter money so better make him a starter.

I agree about KD and have always found his player-GMing more obnoxious than that of Lebron or some other superstars.
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That's a fair observation. It's a personal bias. I'm not a fan of pushing in all one's chips for ST gains that imperil LT viability, particularly for franchises with long traditions of losing. I'd rather watch year after year of good, competitive basketball that delivers value for one's entertainment money, even if it doesn't produce a title, than suffer through long and/or repeated cycles of losing punctuated by transitory relevance. Minnesota has 17 years of losing to pay back to its fan base. In my view, it needs to be thinking about how to repay this debt in a sustainable, LT manner rather than focusing on chasing ST, transitory glory. If they can do both, then all the better. I'm just skeptical they can, and if I were a fan, I'd be worrying that a hell-bent-for-leather quest to win a title (such as by chasing after washed out superstars) suggests a lack of focus on LT competitive sustainability.
 
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MIN should give KD a 4 year full max extension. IDK what KD is so afraid of, he will just ask out and leave later anyways.
 
TOR package for Durant seems pretty good. Wouldn't take the whole thing to convince me to trade Lauri (if you can move the Raptor players elsewhere).
 
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