4 more years!!

[LogGrad98]

Would you adjust the Senate and House terms at all under that scenario?

I would leave the length of their terms alone, but would like to see them limited to 2 or maybe 3 terms. You watch so many of the old dudes in Washington that get to a point of entitlement and inefficacy in tackling the real problems that is just sickening. In my opinion that is one reason our economy and everything just spiraled out of control. The good ol' boys club has so many lifetime members that they just don't care or can't get anything done, or have lost sight of what really needs to be done. They are so insulated from real people and their problems that they cannot make sound decisions. But, as has been stated, incumbents are very hard to unseat, so as long as the old-timers can talk the rhetoric they keep the vote, and the same ol' same ol' flushes the country down the toilet.

 

[green]

Would term limits make lobbyists stronger or weaker? Would it get too expensive for insurance companies and drug companies and wall street thugs to buy off a new group of politicians every 4-6 years?

 

[franklin]

That's why there should be term limits. People talk a big game, but at the end of the day, it isn't thier politician that is doing things wrong, it's everyone elses.

That's only true if you buy into the two party system. Term limits won't do anything to change the structural problems that gerrymandering establishes.

It's never good to regulate votes out of the people's hands and in to the establishment's. that's what gerrymandering has done.

 

[♪alt13]

That's only true if you buy into the two party system. Term limits won't do anything to change the structural problems that gerrymandering establishes.

It's never good to regulate votes out of the people's hands and in to the establishment's. that's what gerrymandering has done.

If you live in Utah I really hope you signed the petition to get the initiative on the ballot that would have taken the redistricting process out of the hands of our legislators. If you do live in Utah and you didn't sign it then stfu. There is nothing worse imo than people who bitch and never act.

 

[franklin]

If you live in Utah I really hope you signed the petition to get the initiative on the ballot that would have taken the redistricting process out of the hands of our legislators. If you do live in Utah and you didn't sign it then stfu. There is nothing worse imo than people who bitch and never act.

Activism is cute, but it's not effective. You can't expect to change engrained world views with fliers.

Shame me some more?

 

[♪alt13]

Activism is cute, but it's not effective. You can't expect to change engrained world views with fliers.

Shame me some more?

Cute it was backed by a former governor and former and present mayors across the state. You're an idiot if you think you can change anything by bitching on this internet forum. Like I said do something or stfu.

PS There are ballot initiatives that make it every year that use this process. It's uninformed, nihilistic, know it alls like yourself that keep rational measures off the ballot. It isn't enough to be clever, you have to do the leg work too.

 

[LogGrad98]

That's only true if you buy into the two party system. Term limits won't do anything to change the structural problems that gerrymandering establishes.

It's never good to regulate votes out of the people's hands and in to the establishment's. that's what gerrymandering has done.

The two-party system is a swirling toilet bowl. The issues will escalate until it all goes down the drain.

 

[trigg3r]

I think term limits are a good thing. Too bad they aren't in place in Congress.

I agree with this, actually. Canadian Prime Ministers don't have fixed term limits. I don't think FDR did a bad job in his 3 (and a bit) terms.

A lot of conservatives would disagree(shocking, I know). I think he faced some big challenges in his Presidency. I don't think he is the great President that many see him as. JMO.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Somebody should give us a rundown of the good FDR liberal talking points, for humor purposes. Because FDR was just a wild man. Just grabbing at every good/bad idea he could find and hoping something would work. And when he did find his nut, he didn't realize that a program that was half hot air couldn't continue on indefinitely which is why the economy went to **** again after everybody thought he had saved the day. So yeah, other than Glass Stegal, l which hopefully will come back in the present, I'm not seeing anything worthwhile the guy did. His kowtowing to big business during the War was the high point. The albatross of bloated government he left us his low point. Him throwing poop at the wall and getting some to stick was the mid point.

 

[franklin]

Cute it was backed by a former governor and former and present mayors across the state. You're an idiot if you think you can change anything by bitching on this internet forum. Like I said do something or stfu.

PS There are ballot initiatives that make it every year that use this process. It's uninformed, nihilistic, know it alls like yourself that keep rational measures off the ballot. It isn't enough to be clever, you have to do the leg work too.

Who says I want to change anything? Keep on bitching about how others choose to live and act..

Somebody should give us a rundown of the good FDR liberal talking points, for humor purposes. Because FDR was just a wild man. Just grabbing at every good/bad idea he could find and hoping something would work. And when he did find his nut, he didn't realize that a program that was half hot air couldn't continue on indefinitely which is why the economy went to **** again after everybody thought he had saved the day. So yeah, other than Glass Stegal, l which hopefully will come back in the present, I'm not seeing anything worthwhile the guy did. His kowtowing to big business during the War was the high point. The albatross of bloated government he left us his low point. Him throwing poop at the wall and getting some to stick was the mid point.

Yeah, stopping a run on our currency and total government and economic collapse doesn't count for a thing.

 

[Gameface]

The idea that we need term limits is based on the notion that we will never have quality elected officials so it's better to have ones that are neutered than ones that have the ability to become potent. To me that's no solution. If we're all so convinced that there is no possibility of getting the right person elected then our problems run much deeper than the length of their terms.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

8 years in one elected office is plenty. If they want to run for another office then let them do that.