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#41 Wizzards at Jazz, Wed. Jan 23rd 7 PM mtn. On TV and radio

Brown Notes said:
Hard for me to swallow the notion that bench players need to warm up to have a positive impact. I'm also pretty sure that there wasn't much deviation from Ty's regular 3rd quarter rotations. Blaming the early 4th quarter on something that happened or didn't in the 2nd doesn't make any sense either.

The 3rd was pretty much a wash overall, the starters gained 1 point after going up and down a bit. Tinsley had a couple uncharacteristic turnovers late, I assume that's what you mean by the starters letting them back in it. When Watson and Burks came in Utah was up 17.

I guess I'm having a difficult time getting your point. All I can get out of what you're saying is "Ty is a dumbass, therefore so are all his substitutions."
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Ty is a dumbass. Burks and Watson are a disaster in the backcourt; Burks and Tinsley or Burks and Foye seem to work very well. And it wasn't Kanter who was responsible for the 20-2 run by the Wizards, since none of the wings even let him touch the ball. Ty needed to sub to kill the bleeding and pulling Watson was needed. I don't even mind him pulling Burks or Favors, but Kanter was playing a much better game than Al and he should have got at least 5 more minutes of playing time.



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Brown Notes said:
It isn't true, Nate and Candrew are completely fabricating the nature of the Wiz's late run. What really happened was the bench had a sloppy stretch in the 4th and the Wizards made a nice run out of it.

Corbin brought the starters back in minus Marvin, they settled down and sealed the game.
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Thanks, I figured as much.
 
Brown Notes said:
Read my earlier post. The bench blew the lead last night, but since that doesn't fit certain agendas it's time to change the facts.
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They also built the lead in the second. Take a look at the +/- for the game. On a per minute basis, the bench and starters were about even.

For the season, however, the Jazz bench outscores their opponents, while Jazz starters are outscored by their opponents.
 
This board suffers from Corbin Derangement Syndrome. If you take a realistic look at our roster compared to other Western conference teams we are right about where we should be, and trending upwards. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement, but for christ's sake people get a grip.
 
Zombie said:
This board suffers from Corbin Derangement Syndrome. If you take a realistic look at our roster compared to other Western conference teams we are right about where we should be, and trending upwards. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement, but for christ's sake people get a grip.
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I'm a Corbin hater and can agree with this to a degree but when the King of all Morons sits Favors in favor of Jefferson on a clear defensive possession, up one, with under five seconds left in a game, multiple times, there's a major problem. The plane has crashed into the mountain and Corbin was asleep at the ****ing helm.
 
Zombie said:
This board suffers from Corbin Derangement Syndrome. If you take a realistic look at our roster compared to other Western conference teams we are right about where we should be, and trending upwards. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement, but for christ's sake people get a grip.
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So when the bench hits the floor for the first time in the game, the score was tied. Eight minutes later the Jazz are up 15 and rolling, then Corbin -- for no damn reason other than 'just cuz' puts the starters back in to finish the half, and the starters take a -1 +/- into the locker room at the half. But you go ahead and sing the praise of Tyrone Corbin; sing it long and loud and maybe some of us will ignore what we see and believe what we hear.
 
GVC said:
They also built the lead in the second. Take a look at the +/- for the game. On a per minute basis, the bench and starters were about even.

For the season, however, the Jazz bench outscores their opponents, while Jazz starters are outscored by their opponents.
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Yea, they did. Good job on them for that. Also Al was terrible in the 1st half. Neither of these things are disputed. Obviously there are very good reasons to second guess Ty's court time distribution. It's not necessary to fabricate false statements to support that view.
 
Ellipse said:
So when the bench hits the floor for the first time in the game, the score was tied. Eight minutes later the Jazz are up 15 and rolling, then Corbin -- for no damn reason other than 'just cuz' puts the starters back in to finish the half, and the starters take a -1 +/- into the locker room at the half. But you go ahead and sing the praise of Tyrone Corbin; sing it long and loud and maybe some of us will ignore what we see and believe what we hear.
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Where am I "singing his praises"? I'm not saying he should be coach of year or anything, but the way people talk around here you'd think we were in the cellar of the league. I'm not a fan of armchair experts or whiners so maybe that's why it rubs me the wrong way. God forbid the Jazz ever have a really awful season someday, if they think this team is poorly coached imagine what this place would be like if we ever win less than 20 games in a season, it will be apocalyptic.

*edit* For the record, I also have not been a fan of Ty's substitutions in general this season, but the fact remains we are winning games, and considering he is a first time coach he gets some leeway (and patience) from me. Some people around here can criticize without blowing things out of proportion, others though...not so much.
 
Gyp Rosetti said:
I'm a Corbin hater and can agree with this to a degree but when the King of all Morons sits Favors in favor of Jefferson on a clear defensive possession, up one, with under five seconds left in a game, multiple times, there's a major problem. The plane has crashed into the mountain and Corbin was asleep at the ****ing helm.
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This is the kind of Corbin hate that makes me roll my eyes. Once again, reading this post an outsider would think the Jazz were losing games left and right.
 
Finally caught up and I actually thought we played a better game against Washington than Cleveland. The offense is definitely playing better. We still don't get easy shots at the rim like the old Jazz, but there's more cutters and the flex cuts have actually been producing shots (as opposed to the convoluted way we set the post.) We can build on these games.
 
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