#41 Wizzards at Jazz, Wed. Jan 23rd 7 PM mtn. On TV and radio

[billyshelby]

I'm sure someone has pointed this out, but the schedule gods really helped us. Not only do we get this weird stretch where we play like 4 games in 10 nights, but we play several terrible defensive teams in a row. Like getting a chance to work out the kinks against inept teams (although Washington honestly didn't look bad on D.) LA shouldn't put up too much resistance, either. I'll be very interested to see how we play against Indy.

 

[billyshelby]

I see lots of angst about Ty's minutes. I had no problem with it. My only complaint was not calling a TO a little quicker in the 4th. The offense was flailing. A TO to call a play would have been nice. But otherwise, the second unit flopped in the 2nd half and bringing in the starters made sense to me.

 

[franklin]

I'm a Corbin hater and can agree with this to a degree but when the King of all Morons sits Favors in favor of Jefferson on a clear defensive possession, up one, with under five seconds left in a game, multiple times, there's a major problem. The plane has crashed into the mountain and Corbin was asleep at the ****ing helm.

Valid criticism. This is where I start thinking Corbin was hired specifically by management with the understanding that he wouldn't change anything Sloan, including set-rotations-don't-make-kids-get-paranoid notion. It's Jazz tradition and that's all that matters, you know.

Finally caught up and I actually thought we played a better game against Washington than Cleveland. The offense is definitely playing better. We still don't get easy shots at the rim like the old Jazz, but there's more cutters and the flex cuts have actually been producing shots (as opposed to the convoluted way we set the post.) We can build on these games.

If Jerry Sloan couldn't figure a way to handle this with Jefferson then noone will. Sloan ran more PnR with him but he also had DWill. This is where I'm encouraged by Hayward's growth (which Corbin has specifically stated as one of his goals in Hayward PnR development). It's also why I want Jefferson gone.

On the flip side, maybe their stats show Jeffyball combined with transition D is a pretty solid bet. I can't deny that his misses are easy to defend against.

I'll be very interested to see how we play against Indy.

True, but I have it in the loss column. Hibbert-West takes away the edge Jazz have had against lesser interior teams (like Miami of them all!).

 

[billyshelby]

Is Hayward growing?

As for Jeffyball, the dramatic increase in guys cutting to the basket gives me hope.

As for the "convoluted flex cuts" (my term), I'm not hopeful they will continue to work. I don't like our offense. Against young/disorganized teams like the Cavs and Wizards, Ty's O has looked very fluid. I expect painful regression when we play teams like Indy, but I hope I'm wrong and this stretch of rest and cupcakes will be the start of something.

 

[franklin]

1. Definitely.
2. Meh.
3. This has been my m.o. CorbinO breaks through the crust against bad teams. A couple small things that tell me Corbin knows what he's doing (outside understanding NBA offenses should be a given, but let's play anyway) is how players run to specific spots instead of panicking when playing bad d teams, and when the vet point guards direct young players when they aren't doing what they should be. It's a vet talent gap and a bring along the young guys issue. These kids aren't going to learn overnight, in 22 games, or even in a season and a half.

Playing the cream of the crop won't work no matter who coaches this group. You need either elite iso scorers (yes, multiple) or one who's very dynamic. Al Jefferson is neither and the record will reflect that.

 

[candrew]

It isn't true, Nate and Candrew are completely fabricating the nature of the Wiz's late run. What really happened was the bench had a sloppy stretch in the 4th and the Wizards made a nice run out of it.

Corbin brought the starters back in minus Marvin, they settled down and sealed the game.

LOL - completely fabricating? Screw you.

When the starters turned the ball over 3 times in the last 2 minutes of the 3rd quarter, you don't consider that sloppy? The Wizards finished the 3rd with two uncontested layups in a row and a 6-0 run. Wall's head was back in the game. I had every feeling The Wizards were going to make a run to start the 4th - it would have happened against any squad out there.

 

[NAOS]

Is Hayward growing?

As for Jeffyball, the dramatic increase in guys cutting to the basket gives me hope.

As for the "convoluted flex cuts" (my term), I'm not hopeful they will continue to work. I don't like our offense. Against young/disorganized teams like the Cavs and Wizards, Ty's O has looked very fluid. I expect painful regression when we play teams like Indy, but I hope I'm wrong and this stretch of rest and cupcakes will be the start of something.

lulz.

 

[NAOS]

1. Definitely.
2. Meh.
3. This has been my m.o. CorbinO breaks through the crust against bad teams. A couple small things that tell me Corbin knows what he's doing (outside understanding NBA offenses should be a given, but let's play anyway) is how players run to specific spots instead of panicking when playing bad d teams, and when the vet point guards direct young players when they aren't doing what they should be. It's a vet talent gap and a bring along the young guys issue. These kids aren't going to learn overnight, in 22 games, or even in a season and a half.

Playing the cream of the crop won't work no matter who coaches this group. You need either elite iso scorers (yes, multiple) or one who's very dynamic. Al Jefferson is neither and the record will reflect that.

some rep for you, honey.

 

[Brown Notes]

LOL - completely fabricating? Screw you.

When the starters turned the ball over 3 times in the last 2 minutes of the 3rd quarter, you don't consider that sloppy? The Wizards finished the 3rd with two uncontested layups in a row and a 6-0 run. Wall's head was back in the game. I had every feeling The Wizards were going to make a run to start the 4th - it would have happened against any squad out there.

See, you feeling that way and the players allowing it are two different things. If (and I doubt you really do) you actually believe what you're so valiantly attempting to defend, it's time to hang up all notions of the bench bringing a spark, lift, energy, etc. I mean, Ty would be a total 'tard to ever bring in somebody off the bench unless the guy he's replacing is playing great. Right?? Cuz otherwise the sub will be too depressed, the opposition far too enthused, for it to be a fair contest.

Give me a ****ing break ginger. You post something this disingenuous and far fetched and you'll get called out. It won't just be me.

 

[Stoked]

This is the kind of Corbin hate that makes me roll my eyes. Once again, reading this post an outsider would think the Jazz were losing games left and right.

I'd say the Jazz have lost a half dozen games that they should have won. I am not counting "might have" wins but "should have" wins. Alot of that I blame on coaching.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yes, he should have had more control over the tempo. They were playing too fast, shooting too early, it was sloppy ball. Burks really capped it with that CJ style chuck that got him yanked but mostly it was just undisciplined play and Wall going nuts.

The "cj style chuck" was done with 2 seconds on the shot clock, and was the only shot burks took BTW.

 

[Brown Notes]

The "cj style chuck" was done with 2 seconds on the shot clock, and was the only shot burks took BTW.

Was it? I just remember hating that shot. Anyways the point was that his retarded outlier +/- and Wiz run wasn't all on Burks.