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Qman

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First of all watching the Spurs and other playoff teams they have their short clock scoring options all worked out.

For the Spurs first of all they want Parker iso'ed at the top of key. Next they want Duncan at the low block or at the high post. Or they want a Duncan-Parker pick and roll.

Indiana has David West and Paul George.

Memphis has Randolph, Gasol and Conley.

Clippers have Chris Paul.

Miami has Lebron.

Chicago has Rose.

What is going to step up for us?

Last year it was give the ball to Jefferson or Millsap. Jefferson was pretty good at it. Millsap struggled.

Looking forward what is going to be our best short clock option?

Burks has the ability to create a shot when isolated but isn't efficient at converting them. Can he improve his shot that much? Historically most players don't.

Favors doesn't have the offensive polish to get a good shot quickly.

IMO Kanter has some potential in this and maybe he will get his chances this year.

And finally Hayward. I don't like him in ISO situations. But with a Favors or Kanter pick he can be very good.

The problem with pick and rolls late in the clock is you can blitz the ballhandler and you don't have time to swing the ball.

So we really need someone to step forward and be the 'star'. One the main responsibilities of the 'star' is to make some short clock shots.

In other words I am not convinced we have the key piece. We don't have a 'star'. Hayward and/or Kanter could become an offensive star like that. Favors has a spot on any good team as a 3rd or 4th scorer, rebounder and defender. Hayward looks like a very efficient 2nd scorer. But who is going to our #1 option?

And we aren't likely to find such a player at 14 and 21 this year. I hope we can find two rotational players at 14 and 21.

So maybe the 'tank year' plan has some merit. We run with young guys, minimum contract guys and one or two vets and see what assets we can pick with our cap space at the trade deadline. And hope for some good lottery balls.
 
We don't have any last second options.

Hayward looks decent, but he needs to drastically improve.

I don't think Burks is good enough to carry a team.

Favors has zero one on one skills.

Kanter is ok in certain spots.

I see us up 5 with 5 mins to go in a lot of games next year and losing by 5-10 pts because we can't score in the last 5 mins.

But that is ok, because then we can get somebody in the draft who can do those things.

Or maybe someone steps up this year and surprises us all.
 
We don't have any last second options.

Hayward looks decent, but he needs to drastically improve.

I don't think Burks is good enough to carry a team.

Favors has zero one on one skills.

Kanter is ok in certain spots.

I see us up 5 with 5 mins to go in a lot of games next year and losing by 5-10 pts because we can't score in the last 5 mins.

But that is ok, because then we can get somebody in the draft who can do those things.

Or maybe someone steps up this year and surprises us all.

I don't think we'll be in that position much, unless it is against teams like Charlotte, Washington, Cleveland, etc. With a very weak bench (if we don't sign vets), the Jazz will perform badly in the 2nd and mid-4th quarters - i.e. when the starters are out. Offensively, the Jazz will rely on ball movement to score, with Favors and Kanter crashing the boards. Yes, there will be growing pains and probably some games the Jazz score 70 pts. But that's a lot better than winning 40 again with Al as the "go-to" guy.
 
First of all watching the Spurs and other playoff teams they have their short clock scoring options all worked out.

For the Spurs first of all they want Parker iso'ed at the top of key. Next they want Duncan at the low block or at the high post. Or they want a Duncan-Parker pick and roll.

Indiana has David West and Paul George.

Memphis has Randolph, Gasol and Conley.

Clippers have Chris Paul.

Miami has Lebron.

Chicago has Rose.

What is going to step up for us?

Last year it was give the ball to Jefferson or Millsap. Jefferson was pretty good at it. Millsap struggled.

The Jazz didn't go to Jefferson for last second post ups unless it was the end result of a designed play that created a few half-assed options before dumping it to Jefferson with a lot of moving pieces involved.

When set plays broke down, Corbin went to a motion offense that was difficult to watch, mainly because of Hayward (and Foye to a lesser extent). Mo was their primary option until he got hurt, but his hero ball in late game situations turned me off to his short clock ball. Kid's a chucker.

The Jazz definitely need to address this hole in the back court. Hayward's getting better but isn't athletic enough to ever be that guy. Even Ginobili wasn't ever great at short clock work. His specialties came more when he had time to work, and that's where Hayward is at his best atm.
 
These seem to best options.

Hayward Favors pick&roll
Hayward Kanter pick&roll/pop
Kanter low post.
 
Kanter looks like the best person to run the offense through if he can stay relatively quick and light. If we get a legit PG in this draft we can run a two-man game with those players, keeping Hayward and Favors as an alternative pick-and-roll.

Personally, I like the idea of running a 2-man game with Giannis and Kanter too.
 
I like burks in a pic and rol situation.. even an iso situation. one things for sure, the kid can get to the rim! will he finish it? Sometimes, but lets just hope he hits the rim, avoids a shot clock violation and then allow the clean up crew, aka, kanter and favors to clean it up and get an easy put back.
 
I thought that Burks showed the most likelihood to iso and get a quick shot. Whether he can get a good shot and make it or get fouled remains to be seen.
 
if this thread is about addressing the issue of whos the guy you give the ball to when the clock is low

the answer is also the answer to the direction of the draft, and the real biggest issue with the roster(not if al stays or goes)

Brandon Jennings

if we sign Jennings, take Gobert or Noguiera at 14

we can hope for Schroder at 21

which would give us

19 year old Schroder
21 year old Burks
23 year old Jennings

plus you can have tinsley because they all flex to SG (burks can play SF)

now you can slot Gordon at SG

Resigning Al sets the 4's and 5's, 96 minutes or close to 30 each for Kanter Favors and Al with Gobert getting 10 (any injury and the kids have to play big minutes)

then the jazz can worry about getting Noah Vonleh in 2014 to play SF

(2014-15 roster)

Jennings
Hayward
Vonleh
Favors
Kanter

Schroder, Burks, Gobert, Al off the bench

this team would massacre the west...
 
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if this thread is about addressing the issue of whos the guy you give the ball to when the clock is low

the answer is also the answer to the direction of the draft, and the real biggest issue with the roster(not if al stays or goes)

Brandon Jennings

if we sign Jennings, take Gobert or Noguiera at 14

we can hope for Schroder at 21

which would give us

19 year old Schroder
21 year old Burks
23 year old Jennings

plus you can have tinsley because they all flex to SG (burks can play SF)

Agreed. There is no "first option" available at 14 and 21. With all the $$ the FO has they are better able to address this need with free agency or sign/trade than through a weak draft.
 
no one on the jazz would be good enough to carry us as a title, but if we dominate the boards play defense and shoot 3's on low turnovers we can beat everyone

considering that we paid mo williams 8,500,000 last season and raja bell like 3,000,000

id think we can just give that to jennings... HES 23!!! theres tons of 22 year old pgs in this draft

plus i dont see the downside risk, if hes a disaster someone else will take him, for an expiring and/or draft pick

if jennings shoots 38% from 3 the jazz would win tons of games

the thing with jennings is hes certainly capable of more, i think utah and just a new team in general will help him lots

i think Favors would benefit greatly from jennings

dont underrate that he leaves his defender in the dust and then we play 4 on 5

he can pick and roll and pick and pop, thats the key, and you cannot press brandon jennings... must trap
 
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