A Place for Conservatives

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Heathme, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Usually it's based on your point of view to begin with. Everyone believes their beliefs are reasonable, logical, and therefore centrist, since obviously their ideas are the most balanced and reasonable. So from that point of view they see anything that doesn't fit their own view as either left or right from there. Hence the view of many on the extreme left that politics has "shifted" so that centrists are the "new right", rather than being intellectually honest and admitting that their own view have shifted extreme left and become even more immutable. We are in an age where confirmation bias is so strongly reinforced through immediate access to similar viewpoints and ability to deride dissenting opinions through the immediate feedback loop of social media, that even those who may previously have accepted other opinions as valid are becoming engulfed in the political quagmires at each end of the spectrum.
     
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  2. Heathme

    Heathme Well-Known Member

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    As far as I can tell this is your first contribution to the thread, and that's all you have to say? No liberal knowledge to impart upon me? And if you're not a liberal, no conservative information to share?

    Any comments on the many articles, videos, and information I shared?
     
  3. fishonjazz

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    I have a comment for ya


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  4. Heathme

    Heathme Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the liberal knowledge!
     
  5. Stars Fan

    Stars Fan Well-Known Member

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    Here, here!

    Or is it hear, hear!?

    Whatever, I second this post.
    AOC is a rookie congresswoman being used as a foil by the state propaganda outlet.

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  6. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    I definitely can respond to the one about growing polar ice caps. In fact, there was an article on Forbes about this and which was debunked. I was one of the debunkers but there were others, and the information was available which showed error in perception made by the article. Yes, there is additional ice in Antarctica, but it has to do with conditions of moisture created by the warming temperatures. However, it's a very thin layer and the ice that is relevant is the icebergs which are deep and thick ice and they are melting. Heathme, there is a lot of disinformation out there about Global Warming to benefit the profit-making industries. They want to keep polluting and spewing out fossil fuels to maintain their profits. To admit to Global Warming would mean they would have to do something about it, which would affect their bottom line. It's a simple as that.
     
  7. Heathme

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    Serious question. Are you someone that believes that the Earth is gradually and very slowly warming or are you someone that believes the world is going to end in 12 years?

    As you can guess, I am definitely on the side that climate computer models are very flawed and have been proven to be flawed over the past 20 to 30 years.

    To me, this article is very reasonable:
    https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/stop-the-anti-climate-science-totalitarians
     
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  8. NAOS

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    cool personal story.

    And, yeah, I'm familiar with Friedman.
     
  9. Red

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    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    isn't she the mouthpiece of this bill that's been forwarded tho ??
     
  11. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    Reasonable but it's a pack of lies. Since when did they keep records about tornadoes during the Civil War years -- that was the clue that this was suspect. I haven't checked his claims but I guarantee most of what he is saying is pure b.s.

    Sure enough, the work of the dirty, dishonest Koch brothers, the secret power behind the Trump Administration:

    https://climateinvestigations.org/who-is-paying-for-heartland-institute-climate-denial-palooza/

    Heathme, just look at what the overwhelming majority of scientists are saying. It's like 97-99 percent of the world's respected scientists say that climate change is happening and made by human activity. Stop fighting with science and believing these out and out liars who only want to advance their profit-making agenda.
     
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  12. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Can you say with absolute certainty that no one is using current prevailing climate opinion to make a profit? Are there research grants, new products, new industries, or anything else monetarily tied to it? Be careful trying to ascribe purely altruistic motivations to anything driven by humans.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightened_self-interest
     
  15. Stoked

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  16. Heathme

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    Heathme Well-Known Member

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    Here is a view from the other side:
    https://www.heartland.org/about-us/reply-to-critics/index.html
     
  18. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    Of course, if one simply ignores everything there is to know about the Heartland Institute.

    Take a really deep dive into the history of the Heartland Institute, and then get back to me. Be open minded about it.

    Of course I know that won't happen, and really, that's all right. People just believe what supports their own position, and then just talk past each other. I'm no different.
     
  19. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    In other words yes, there is profit to be made on both sides. But of course, the side you agree with has nothing but altruism in mind at all times. I'm sure if they discovered that man-made climate change was false all of them would immediately give all of their profits to the poor and needy, amiright?
     
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  20. Heathme

    Heathme Well-Known Member

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