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Bulletproof said:
I've literally never read an actual science journal in my life. Where would I even get one? Do they have a section of science journals at the library? I guess they might but I haven't noticed them.
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It's easy for students, as college libraries grant access to most journals. Some companies also provide subscriptions to relevant journals for R&D. And you can also find them pirated on science hub (google it).
 
I find people who say "We can't know for sure, so you can't assume anything" to be so dangerous.

"There is some nuance about how top scientists describe the Big Bang"

"WE CAN'T BELIEVE A THING, DON'T BLINDLY FOLLOW SCIENCE, WE KNOW NOTHING!"

Terrible attitude, don't shun learning because the process is incomplete.
 
Alfalfa said:
In that context, yes. Surely you're smart enough to understand.
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Well you are not smart enough to understand that my original post was just pointing out to GF that there have been, and are, multiple theories of the advent of the universe, since he said he was aware really of one, which was the big bounce theory he described. And that was it. It is obvious you have no idea what you have been arguing about and so it makes you look very foolish.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
I find people who say "We can't know for sure, so you can't assume anything" to be so dangerous.

"There is some nuance about how top scientists describe the Big Bang"

"WE CAN'T BELIEVE A THING, DON'T BLINDLY FOLLOW SCIENCE, WE KNOW NOTHING!"

Terrible attitude, don't shun learning because the process is incomplete.
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It's a disaster. The internet has been quite the transformative force.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Well you are not smart enough to understand that my original post was just pointing out to GF that there have been, and are, multiple theories of the advent of the universe, since he said he was aware really of one, which was the big bounce theory he described. And that was it. It is obvious you have no idea what you have been arguing about and so it makes you look very foolish.
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I know what you wrote. It was a bad response. You answered all of his questions with "well, there are many theories, here are some ones I heard of". What a terrible ****ing response. I responded with actual information about the speed of light and current state of understanding of the fate of the universe.

People amaze me.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Back in 2006 when Al Gore said we were ten years away from this same moment did he have scientific backing or was he just making stuff up? If it was based on scientific opinion (as I believe it was) why has the "point of no return" been moved twice as far into the future as it originally was? What happened that averted the crisis in 2016?
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I don't know, lol. I don't remember the film at all, although I did see it. Here's enough "Gore got it wrong" links to choke a horse, and a few in support of Trump. Again, better to stick with primary sources, and not movies, I would think.

https://skepticalscience.com/resources.php?a=links&arg=74

Sorry, looks like a lot of those "Gore got it wrong" links are dead...

Maybe this will help, but I am at a disadvantage, as you apparently remember the Gore film like the back of your hand, and I do not...

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/changing-climate-10-years-after-inconvenient-truth

According to one climate science in this entry, climate scientists did not predict a global catastrophe by 2018:

https://skepticalscience.com/comeback-strategies-al-gore.html

Reprinted from here, if you don't feel skeptical science can be trusted:

https://www.yaleclimateconnections....-comeback-strategies-al-gore-said-what-part3/
 
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jimmy eat jazz said:
I mean, do those of you pretending to know anything about these subjects, and boldly declaring that the people who do know about them are wrong, understand how foolish you sound?
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Many people do not want to learn. Still other people may be "victims" of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which basically is simply thinking one knows more then one actually knows:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

Especially in this age of severe erosion of any trust or confidence in any source of "authority", be it political authority, scientific authority, religious authority, it's not all that uncommon for people to simply assume their own authority. I exaggerate this trend at times by suggesting we will eventually get to the point where, a patient needs open heart surgery, lets go out on the street and ask the first person, "yo, you wanna try your hand at heart surgery? Follow me". No patient would ever accept any such thing, but nowadays many will settle for the opinion of anyone except people actually trained for decades in just the subject they are interested in. Perish the thought, lol. Add to that a transition to a so-called Post Truth landscape, and they'll be no point in learning anything at all. Whatever you want to believe will be true to you, and if people with greater knowledge disagree, well they can always pound salt, lol.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Back in 2006 when Al Gore said we were ten years away from this same moment did he have scientific backing or was he just making stuff up? If it was based on scientific opinion (as I believe it was) why has the "point of no return" been moved twice as far into the future as it originally was? What happened that averted the crisis in 2016?
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Don’t confuse al gore with a scientist. Dude is a politician. He cherry picks info on global warming. So while his support of the general idea of global warming is correct. He has many details and the conclusions he draws are bogus.
 
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