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Well I mean what does this right to life do for me and you? If you suddenly removed that right would we all be breaking the law and be arrested for living without the right to live? I don't think so. Would murder suddenly become legal? Certainly not.

And if I have the right to life then I should also have the right to not live yet if I'm about to jump from a bridge the cops would try to stop me. Assisted suicide is illegal.

I have the right to own a gun. Doesn't mean I'm forced to own one. I can opt to not own one.

What does the right to live actually do? It seems like a rather pointless, arbitrary, meaningless right.

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Are you high right now?
 
She has tons of rights. She has a right to breathe air. She has a right to eat food (which she is not required to prepare or pay for herself). She has a right to be treated kindly. She has the right to cry. She has the right to laugh. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Also, if she really is eating, sleeping and doing everything else just the way you want then you should consider yourself lucky... and inexperienced.
So does everyone everywhere then.
I'm mean a ****ing snail has a right to life then too. So like I have been saying, this whole right to life thing is kinda pointless and meaningless. It's a given

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I disagree with a lot of the more liberal voices on here.

But no thanks on a “safe space”. Echo chambers suck.

JazzFanz is the ultimate "echo chamber"...…. a "safe place" for those who don't like to consider differing opinions.....

really, I expect, though I haven't been to public schools in ages, a "safe place" for middle-schoolers......

or is it that college education has really declined that much.
 
I find conservative sites like those listed in the OP actually sorta backwards..... Even Mark Levin.... as advocates for things like human liberty and human rights.

So "reactionary", and not really getting to the point of what it takes to change the regressive world we live in, which is by all accounts, led by our elites in a grand charge backwards to medieval liege servile nutjobs.
 
JazzFanz is the ultimate "echo chamber"...…. a "safe place" for those who don't like to consider differing opinions.....

really, I expect, though I haven't been to public schools in ages, a "safe place" for middle-schoolers......

or is it that college education has really declined that much.

No, it’s really not. Just because stupid **** is shunned doesn’t make this a safe space. No amount of staying it is will make it so.
 
JazzFanz is the ultimate "echo chamber"...…. a "safe place" for those who don't like to consider differing opinions.....

really, I expect, though I haven't been to public schools in ages, a "safe place" for middle-schoolers......

or is it that college education has really declined that much.

This is clearly not an echo chamber. What a joke. Are you a bot?
 
He's certainly not entirely responsible, but do you recall what the Dems were saying would happen economically if he got elected?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164
They sure missed by a mile. I'd be interested to hear what sort of economic forecasts Charlie Munger was making in November and December of 2016.
Of course, what Politico says is not always objective but political. The thing about the economy is that while it is ok now, temporarily, at what future cost. Sure, lowering taxes causes a bull market and removing regulations helps business -- but at what future cost to our environment and our infrastructure? It certainly isn't helping poor or lower middle class people -- more jobs but not at a living wage.
 
This is clearly not an echo chamber. What a joke. Are you a bot?

denial denial.

I just try hard to say something I think is not being given much consideration.

When I see a moniker like "safetydan" I remember all the stupid little mandatory "meetings" or employee checkoffs about how not to light up a cigarette when pouring methanol in the lab. And the very very serious middlemanagement kissups who remind me that since they are authorities within their little kingdoms, nobody has any business saying anything but what is expected.

I'm the science expert top management calls and pays real money for actually solving a problem.

Like how a plastics manufacturer needed an explanation for why their initiator wasn't working. I analyzed the stuff and found it had "spoiled"..... it had gotten too warm somewhere, and partially decomposed. The top brass asked what to do, and I said "call the fire department. This material needs to be safely transported outta town and destroyed." And call the manufacturer and get their instructions so the fire department can do it right.

Well, we got the right advice from the manufacturer. "Get a large open space, space out the containers about 20 ft apart, and let the sun shine on it. It will warm up, catch fire, and safely burn off."

I told the fire department guys. They ignored me, and got out their books. "Oh look, this is like TNT! We'll deal with it that way."
So they got big trucks, filled them with sand, and put two cannisters in each, and did police escort out to the gravel pit next to the new housing development. It was a parade for two hours while they made ten trips with four trucks. And then they put them all together in the pit, and lit some dynamite to set it all off.

"Boom!!!!"

The next day there was an epidemic in inexplicable malaises in the housing development. Some thought their ears had been damaged. Some had headaches, or just didn't feel well.

Well, blowing it up did not destroy the stuff, just scattered it. It decomposed as particles or droplets in the wind, without burning, into two toxic parts, each significantly poisonous.

Now tell me how "Authoritarian Governance" is really the best we can do. Now tell me why we need our media giants grading participants for correct political views and good conduct.

When I was a kid, we called them "Hall Monitors". The pious little stinks who chased the deliquents down the hall or caught them and took them to the Principal, for chewing gum or maybe lesser offenses.

My idea of a discussion forum required more differing opinions, respectfully laid out, than any little NGO-influenced band of change agents can really do by themselves.

I swear, we've got twenty OBs in here, each with some interesting little twist on socialism, and nobody who has actually paid their own way in life. I mean.... public school teachers do not dare be different, and don't dare to get a job that isn't well-structured with a secure paycheck and benefits. All right.... how many teachers in here???/
 
Lol, we all are. Every last one of us. The triggers just change from person to person.

nah.

just having the willingness to chatter is not the same thing as being triggered.

not liking what others say may tempt you to diss them as materialists with no intrinsic value as humans, and it might seem to the societal managerial class to need to be pointedly otherized..... but actually liking to have people to talk to doesn't need to be a problem....
 
nah.

just having the willingness to chatter is not the same thing as being triggered.

not liking what others say may tempt you to diss them as materialists with no intrinsic value as humans, and it might seem to the societal managerial class to need to be pointedly otherized..... but actually liking to have people to talk to doesn't need to be a problem....

If you don’t think you have triggers you’re lying to yourself. We all have them.
 
If you don’t think you have triggers you’re lying to yourself. We all have them.

My my...…. such a serious charge.

What should society do to punish triggery people?

no, I did not say I am not one with fav topics I'm willing to pop off on. I'm just not willing to give up the positive things that come with caring about something, and I care to point out the mistake of making it a negative. Particularly in a place that ostensibly welcomes discussions.

Imo the progressive.... mainly left but also the so-called moderates..... ideology is going off the rails to make it out as an intolerable offense to differ ideologically.

your snap judgment about me lying to myself is really uncalled-for, so what. You are essentially arguing that everyone is "lying to themselves" in some aspect of their self-image. You could make that a positive just as conveniently, and call it "having good self-esteem" or somesuch.

But go look back on what I said, and realize you jumped the gun. I did not say I or anyone else is not "triggered" by one thing or another.

The word is used in a pejorative way nowadays, what with guns being "bad" and whatnot. It can be bad to go off with a lot of hostility, sure. But what concerns me more is the culture of intolerance from the "progressive" quarter, who are everything except the classical sort of "liberal" who is willing to be tolerant of others.
 
My my...…. such a serious charge.

What should society do to punish triggery people?

no, I did not say I am not one with fav topics I'm willing to pop off on. I'm just not willing to give up the positive things that come with caring about something, and I care to point out the mistake of making it a negative. Particularly in a place that ostensibly welcomes discussions.

Imo the progressive.... mainly left but also the so-called moderates..... ideology is going off the rails to make it out as an intolerable offense to differ ideologically.

your snap judgment about me lying to myself is really uncalled-for, so what. You are essentially arguing that everyone is "lying to themselves" in some aspect of their self-image. You could make that a positive just as conveniently, and call it "having good self-esteem" or somesuch.

But go look back on what I said, and realize you jumped the gun. I did not say I or anyone else is not "triggered" by one thing or another.

The word is used in a pejorative way nowadays, what with guns being "bad" and whatnot. It can be bad to go off with a lot of hostility, sure. But what concerns me more is the culture of intolerance from the "progressive" quarter, who are everything except the classical sort of "liberal" who is willing to be tolerant of others.

No, we all have triggers. To imply, or outright say you, or anyone else doesn't is a lie.

Take that however you want.

Im a simple man. With simple meaning. There is no hidden agenda or course of action

**** the progressives and **** the conservatives.
 
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No, we all have triggers. To imply, or outright say you, or anyone else doesn't is a lie.

Take that however you want.

Im a simply man. With simply meaning. There no hidden agenda or course of action

**** the progressives and **** the consecutively.
Obviously his trigger is implying he has triggers.


He's so meta.
 
Stoked and fire girl are easily triggered. They might be the easiest tbh

If you think you have done anything to date to trigger me you're dense as ****.

But rock on with you bad *** self. Damn the man. Save the empire.

It’s easy, and emotional less, to type **** you on a chat board.

Why is that people think they are the only one to throw some Letter on keyboard with no real emotional involvement?
 
If you think you have done anything to date to trigger me you're dense as ****.

But rock on with you bad *** self. Damn the man. Save the empire.

It’s easy, and emotional less, to type **** you on a chat board.

Why is that people think they are the only one to throw some Letter on keyboard with no real emotional involvement?

Some of the founding greats of JFC are triggered by anyone who can spell "Constitution", let alone think it's important.

The foul-mouthed insulters are less evil than the clever intellectual insulters. You and Fish seem like normal folks with more interest in enjoying life than changing the world to fit an agenda.

Log is just dedicated to keeping stuff rolling along smoothly.

I will call it "mission accomplished" when the whole JFC joins my new world order schema, which is to replace the CFR with a simple sort of John Locke and James Madison practical program to extend the rights of man.... not just the Bill of Rights.... but actual representative governance that follows the will of the people rather than leads/programs it.
 
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