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franklin said:
Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
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1. Presumably, most of those 22-24- shots are from the corner. The line above the break is at 23'9''. Those distances are presumably rounded, so perhaps shots from 24.5' are being counted in the 25-29' range. Those shots would be coming from only 9'' beyond the line. Not that any of this changes your main point: Alec is a decent spot-up shooter from 3.

2. Where are these stats from?
 
Stats from NBA.com. Franklin's presumably taking the 13 shots from 30'+ out, which is reasonable. Alec was 50/130 on 3s inside 30'.
 
GVC said:
Stats from NBA.com. Franklin's presumably taking the 13 shots from 30'+ out, which is reasonable. Alec was 50/130 on 3s inside 30'.
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Thanks. 38.5% is above average. Factoring in his ability to slash, attack, get to the line, pass and rebound, if this kid can truly give a damn on defense, we have a hell of a player. Should we try to extend him now, what do you think we should offer, all things considered?

I'd say 4 years, 40M.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Thanks. 38.5% is above average. Factoring in his ability to slash, attack, get to the line, pass and rebound, if this kid can truly give a damn on defense, we have a hell of a player. Should we try to extend him now, what do you think we should offer, all things considered?

I'd say 4 years, 40M.
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I agree with this post. If he would take that, I'd be happy because I think he'll get more on the semi-open market for RFAs.

I have a feeling he's going to have a big year offensively.
 
Ellis269 said:
I agree with this post. If he would take that, I'd be happy because I think he'll get more on the open market.
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I was gonna say 4 years, 44M but I have a feeling Burks' reputation league-wide isn't even close to as hyped as Hayward's has been. Or Lowry. Or any of these guys getting 12M+. Knowing that, he and his agent may accept 4 years, 40M. I doubt it though.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I was gonna say 4 years, 44M but I have a feeling Burks' reputation league-wide isn't even close to as hyped as Hayward's has been. Or Lowry. Or any of these guys getting 12M+. Knowing that, he and his agent may accept 4 years, 40M. I doubt it though.
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Agreed.

and since his extension can be negotiated (we dont just have to make one offer and take it or leave it for burks) i would offer 4 years 32 million dollars to start and then if they say no i would increase the offer a little bit, until i got to the 4 year 44 million mark.
If you start low it could come off as bad, like an insult kind of......but if you start low, you may get a steal of a deal and even if they say no then maybe by the time you hit the 10 million per year mark they feel like they are kicking *** in the negotiation and take that deal....... without knowing you were planning on paying that all along anyway
 
fishonjazz said:
Agreed.

and since his extension can be negotiated (we dont just have to make one offer and take it or leave it for burks) i would offer 4 years 32 million dollars to start and then if they say no i would increase the offer a little bit, until i got to the 4 year 44 million mark.
If you start low it could come off as bad, like an insult kind of......but if you start low, you may get a steal of a deal and even if they say no then maybe by the time you hit the 10 million per year mark they feel like they are kicking *** in the negotiation and take that deal....... without knowing you were planning on paying that all along anyway
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I definitely don't disagree but man, that's a really fine line Lindsey will be walking. Especially with Burks and his agent knowing what Hayward just got paid.
 
Burks has predominantly played the 6th man role for the Jazz, it'll take a pretty big leap for another team to pay him $11m to be a starter, IMO, given he is still not a proven shooter from 3pt line and isn't a real difference maker defensively. He does have 1 elite skill but does that get you $11m ???
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Burks has predominantly played the 6th man role for the Jazz, it'll take a pretty big leap for another team to pay him $11m to be a starter, IMO, given he is still not a proven shooter from 3pt line and isn't a real difference maker defensively. He does have 1 elite skill but does that get you $11m ???
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Hayward just got paid 15.75M per. Anything can happen.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Burks has predominantly played the 6th man role for the Jazz, it'll take a pretty big leap for another team to pay him $11m
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You are correct as of today.... but no teams can offer him a contract as of today.

After next year, when he has another year of big time minutes and if his outside shooting continues to get better (like it does every year) and if he puts up numbers in the 20 point, 4 assists, and 5 rebound range (realistic goals for alec imo) then i think teams may think of alec differently than they do today
 
Hotttnickkk said:
He does have 1 elite skill but does that get you $11m ???
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How many elite skills does hayward have? I would say zero. He got a decent contract imo
 
fishonjazz said:
How many elite skills does hayward have? I would say zero. He got a decent contract imo
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He is elite at being versatile.









OK, that didn't convince me either. It's just really hard not to think about his contract. smh.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
He is elite at being versatile.









OK, that didn't convince me either. It's just really hard not to think about his contract. smh.
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Kinda true i guess..... good point.

But ya that contract is annoying
 
Maybe this is why the Jazz are trying to max out on the money they can get through trades every year.

Yes, I realize the Jazz paid for the Gobert pick.
 
orangello said:
Maybe this is why the Jazz are trying to max out on the money they can get through trades every year.

Yes, I realize the Jazz paid for the Gobert pick.
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That's what I thought was the case here as well. They basically sold 'stuff they no longer need' for $1million they could put into scouting and hiring the new shooting coach at least.
 
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