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PKM said:
We'll have lots of decisions to make regarding some existing players.. Burks, Kanter, etc.. but it appears, to me, that the Jazz are plotting a scheme to amass tons of picks (duh), beef up scouting (so it seems to be happening), and have a nucleus to build around of;

Exum - Burke - Hayward - Gobert - Favors - Hood
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I think I can see where you're going with this. With the exception of Favors and Hayward, those are all guys that Lindsey has been involved in picking (although with Burke it seems it was Ty who really wanted him really bad). So I wouldn't be surprised if he gets traded if the price is right. If not we've got him on the cheap for a couple more years yet.

I do think Hood is our future at SF. He is physical enough to up his defensive game. He has a legit 3pt shot making ability and most of all he is a true team player and leader (without being cocky) in the team. He seems like he could really fit that Bruce Bowen mold perfectly.

So I think this is the team DL might secretly want to succeed:

Gobert
Favors
Hood
Hayward
Exum

All good character guys. All big & long for their positions. All smart defensively. Favors would need to show his improvement offensively but I have a feeling we'll tank it 1 more year and grab a future stretch 4 PF in this draft. If Favors still doesn't pan out then we can let him walk while our new PF is ready to take over.

I am completely sold on this guy PG_AB had been talking about. He has true stretch 4 potential in the NBA with range out to the 3pt line already. He's tall enough that he should be able to get his shots off in the NBA no problem whatsoever. His only knock is that he needs to bulk up a bit, but he should be able to do that.

Him next to Gobert is really gonna make them one of the tallest front court in the NBA defensively. As shown in the video below, this guy already has true defensive potential with quick active hands and the ability to block shots. Seems like the kind of guy DL would want on our team.

PointGod_AlecBurks said:
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Rumor is KP had a promise from OKC had he stayed in the draft.

I really hope Burks is in the fold going forward. He has an elite ability to get to the basket, and that is a skill that will never go out of style (and may be necessary on the wing alongside Gordon Hayward).

I really like a long-term backcourt rotation of Exum, Burks, Hayward, and Hood (+backup PG). That is a long, athletic group that can handle the ball, shoot, get to the rim, and defend.
 
Core4 said:
This is how I picture PKM and ncjazz. PKM has the glamorous life; ncjazz is bitter because he got the short end of the ugly stick.

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Danny Devito is way cooler though.
 
bigmike said:
Rumor is KP had a promise from OKC had he stayed in the draft.

I really hope Burks is in the fold going forward. He has an elite ability to get to the basket, and that is a skill that will never go out of style (and may be necessary on the wing alongside Gordon Hayward).

I really like a long-term backcourt rotation of Exum, Burks, Hayward, and Hood (+backup PG). That is a long, athletic group that can handle the ball, shoot, get to the rim, and defend.
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Re: Burks in the fold - I think it'll depend on how much $ he demands. He is a GREAT player coming off the bench. But not sure his lack of 3pt shooting will hurt us or not with Quin's new system where everyone except the Center position will be asked to shoot it from long range.


Re: KP seems like he is tailor made for the offense Quin is trying to implement. Great length and effort defensively. Great vision in terms of passing. Can shoot the midrange and 3pt shot.
 
Burks doesn't lack 3pt shooting. He might not be a floor spacer, but he can hit shots from deep for sure, especially off of spot ups. Not sure you will ever really run screens for him to get 3pt shots though.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Burks doesn't lack 3pt shooting. He might not be a floor spacer, but he can hit shots from deep for sure, especially off of spot ups. Not sure you will ever really run screens for him to get 3pt shots though.
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Burks has a funky shot (low arch, no ball rotation, elbows too close together) but if he is open and you kick it to him he has no problem making it.

He will not ever be a shooter like novak, hood, beal, jimmer, korver.... and hayward is easily a better shooter than burks (despite some of his bad shooting years) but he is not a liability at all like a ronnie brewer, josh smith type of clanker.


I wouldnt say burks outside shot is a strength (like cy said, he isnt a "floor spacer") but its not a weakness either
 
My original point was in a lineup with Exum, Hayward, Favors and Gobert, IMO, you need a pure 3pt shooter in there to make the lineup more balanced and to space the floor.


To me Burks isn't that guy. Therefore I think he's a 6th man material for our team and if he's gonna demand starter's money then I don't think DL is gonna keep him.
 
I love the kid but Jesus, this board needs to seriously relax on the Gobert is the next Bill Russell talk. If he underwhelms, which I'm thinking he can only do at this point, 90% of the board is going to be put on suicide watch.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
What a joke..Every team tries to be like Spurs.. you call this info? Next thing is your info will be the Jazz are looking to win a championship...
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Shut the hell up!! What do you want, he already said it was just a small tidbit. The fact that I don't feel bad about telling you not to be an *** is shocking, as I'm one of the biggest asses on jazzfanz, but then again so is the fact hat your rep is -831, and your still allowed to post here, that's shocking! So don't be an ***!!!!
 
Hotttnickkk said:
My original point was in a lineup with Exum, Hayward, Favors and Gobert, IMO, you need a pure 3pt shooter in there to make the lineup more balanced and to space the floor.


To me Burks isn't that guy. Therefore I think he's a 6th man material for our team and if he's gonna demand starter's money then I don't think DL is gonna keep him.
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Thats true.
If that is your starting lineup then shooting is more important than what burks provides.

We will see if DL assembles a roster with 2 starting bigs that cant shoot and are very limited offensively or he wants one of his bigs to be able to pull the defense away from the basket. (In which case burks skillset might become extremely valueable)
 
bigmike said:
Rumor is KP had a promise from OKC had he stayed in the draft.

I really hope Burks is in the fold going forward. He has an elite ability to get to the basket, and that is a skill that will never go out of style (and may be necessary on the wing alongside Gordon Hayward).

I really like a long-term backcourt rotation of Exum, Burks, Hayward, and Hood (+backup PG). That is a long, athletic group that can handle the ball, shoot, get to the rim, and defend.
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KP probably going top 10 in the next draft so 21 was not high enough for him.
 
NCJazz said:
KP probably going top 10 in the next draft so 21 was not high enough for him.
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Would be pretty awesome if we can grab him. Seems like there is enough talent at the top for KP to slip down to around 7-8. Hopefully we are bad enough next year (for the last time).
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Burks doesn't lack 3pt shooting. He might not be a floor spacer, but he can hit shots from deep for sure, especially off of spot ups. Not sure you will ever really run screens for him to get 3pt shots though.
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Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
 
franklin said:
Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
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Link?
 
franklin said:
Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
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Wait, are you saying Burks shot 38% 3pt FGs if you take away the end of shot clock/quarter/half heaves? Very interesting, franklin. thanks for posting.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I love the kid but Jesus, this board needs to seriously relax on the Gobert is the next Bill Russell talk. If he underwhelms, which I'm thinking he can only do at this point, 90% of the board is going to be put on suicide watch.
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Word. I'll get excited when his game translates against the big, starting caliber NBA players. In the D-League he showed he can dominate players who don't have elite NBA size, which is great, since many backups aren't huge. Next step is doing that **** against the Marc Gasols and Dwight Howards of the league.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Word. I'll get excited when his game translates against the big, starting caliber NBA players. In the D-League he showed he can dominate players who don't have elite NBA size, which is great, since many backups aren't huge. Next step is doing that **** against the Marc Gasols and Dwight Howards of the league.
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I'd even take it a step further and say I want to see him play very well (I don't need him to dominate per se) against the back-up bigs in this league. If he can do that for 14+ minutes a night this year, I'd be very happy.

At this point, I'm thinking Favors should play about 32 a night, Kanter 28, which leaves 22 for Booker and 14 for Gobert.
 
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