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Aaron Gordon, a No. 5 Pick?

The Jazz need a player so good at offense that they can build an offense around them. Can ANYBODY here honestly say that they can expect Aaron Gordon to become that player? Why?
 
cowhide said:
Using Singleton and AK as example to support your claim only weakens it a bit. While I agree that magically a player's weakness doesn't just go away if he enters the NBA. However, AK got by on his talent. Rarely, did he work on his game. All reports I've heard about Gordon is, he is obsessed about basketball. He is going to have more time just to concentrate on basketball. He is 18 years old and wants to be great. He has been one of the better players in his age group and seems to have an alpha dog type personnel vs a Derrick Favors - nice/quiet guy mentality. I think he will improve on his FTs if he wants to be great.

Magic wasn't a great shooter when he came into the league, Jordan didn't have three point range, Lebron's outside shot was inconsistent when he came in the league. Kobe struggled when he came in the league. Now if Gordon had some physical ailment like Brewer or he had the form of Gilchrist then I would not be so high on him. I think you can't just say well a certain player didn't do this in college so he will never be able to do it in the pros either. Seems like the other side of the coin to the people who think his poor FT shooting will magically disappear once he gets to the NBA. Neither is true 100 percent of the time. Players can overcome weakness if they have the desire, focus and work ethnic to do so. They might not become great at this particular weakness but they can eventually make a weakness not as glaring.
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For every NBA player that adds pieces to their game that they didn't have at all previously and enables them to become superstars, there are thousands that don't.
 
Sexual Favors said:
A. Gordon isn't starting from nothing! He has a jump shot. He doesn't have FT's. If he has one, he can transfer the form to another with breaking down the form of the other.

Aaron Gordon isn't devoid of an offensive game. His efg% was .516, while Jabari's wa .511. His TS%, which takes his FT's into account, wass .503, while Jabari's was .558.
Obviously, Gordon is still effective offensively. At 18, and with an already decent jump shot , his FT's aren't doomed to be broken forever.
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Jabari was also the hub from which Duke's offense operated from and the centerpiece to every other team's defensive gameplan. But that couldn't matter.
 
BTW, for those of you that didn't know, videos can be very easily edited. I've made a series of three-pointers in a row as well.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz need a player so good at offense that they can build an offense around them. Can ANYBODY here honestly say that they can expect Aaron Gordon to become that player? Why?
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I don't think this is true. You don't need that one guy. However you need enough guys to do their part. Right now I believe the Jazz have enough offensives power as the young guys grow especially if y'all retain Hayward. The thing that really killed Utah this year IMO was Corbin and weak defense. Corbin is gone and you project Gordon to be a big time defender from day one(especially on the perimeter).
 
I seriously change my mind between Gordon, Vonleh, and Smart everyday. Today it's Gordon. I like the idea of him playing the 3 and his athleticism is just ridiculous. He would be incredible with a jumper.

One thing that worried me for a while is he would end up disappointing the way Derrick Williams did. But Gordon is a millions times the athlete (he doesn't have to jump off two feet like D will, and Gordon is VERY quick off the floor) he is a better defender, he moves well and he has a very good handle. Gordon with a jumper would be in top tier this draft. Do we take the risk?

Gordon also seems to have that love for the game and that fire for it. Something that I just don't see in Vonleh. I can't stop worrying about this part of Vonleh. It's a major hangup for me with him.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Jabari was also the hub from which Duke's offense operated from and the centerpiece to every other team's defensive gameplan. But that couldn't matter.
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Of course it matters. I never said it didn't. But, it matters both ways. If Gordon was the hub of his, he may have scored as much as him. ... Wasn't trying to say A. Gordon has the offensive game of Jabari, he doesn't. Just saying those who say he has no game in that side of the ball are wrong. Gordon is still raw offensively, but he definitely has a game.
 
Aaron Gordon, Small Forward of the Future! Looks like he shot the ball really well today. Stoked!

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/58040101-77/gordon-jazz-utah-nba.html.csp

Aaron Gordon was impressive in his Saturday morning workout with the Utah Jazz.

The Arizona forward showed an improved shooting touch, consistently making 3-pointers from the NBA corners. Unlike most of the prospects the Jazz have brought in, he didn’t struggle with the altitude. He displayed the explosion and the athleticism that’s made him a hot prospect in the first place. He impressed the Jazz with his overall enthusiasm.

On a day Utah introduced Quin Snyder as its new coach and brought in other first round prospects like Adreian Payne, Jerami Grant and Jarnell Stokes, Gordon stood out in his own way. And as the time to the NBA Draft gets shorter, Gordon seems to have firmly etched his way into the conversation for the Jazz’s fifth overall pick.

"He went as hard at the end of the workout as he did at the beginning," Utah’s VP of player personnel Walt Perrin said. "He shot the ball well from the corners and he’s really improved his shooting over the last year. With his athleticism, he has a high ceiling."

Those who have watched Gordon over the last year know about the high-flying dunks, the defense, the size for his position and how hard he plays the game. Still, Gordon’s received knocks in the draft process for his lack of shooting, and his 42 percent free-throw percentage while at Arizona.

So when he declared for the NBA Draft, Gordon went to work with a personal trainer. He’s tightened his shooting stroke and so far, it’s yielded results.

Perrin said his overall game has improved in the last year. Gordon wouldn’t define himself a position, but Perrin said he thinks Gordon can play both front court spots at the NBA level. Should the Jazz draft him with the No. 5 pick, Gordon could instantly give Utah an infusion of raw athleticism up front. And on a team that often struggled defensively, Gordon’s ability to guard multiple positions and rebound would serve as a welcome asset.

"I want to play wherever they need me to play," Gordon said. "I’m a basketball player. I know some people are a little edgy on this answer, but you can put me on the floor, I can defend and I can give you what I can give you on offense."
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He's #2 on my board for the 5th pick (with the standard "provided the top 4 guys are gone" caveat, though many don't even think Exum is part of that group). Though I'm pretty happy with any of the 4 after the Top 4. Still, if Snyder can give Gordon a jumper that's anywhere close to Carroll's (and Carroll attributes part of his improved shooting to Snyder's work with him) then I think he has every other physical tool to be a force in this league.
 
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