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According to RAPM Millsap was the 7th best player in the league

I think Sap grew disenchanted after Big Al took precedence over him while at the same time, everyone was saying that Favors should be playing ahead of him, or at least was on the verge of taking away his place as a starter. So, he was feeling he was getting squeezed out, so to speak. I think he probably felt his time in Utah had passed, and the Jazz felt likewise.
 
All stats are just a guide to eyeball test and Millsap failed miserably last year after underwhelming performance year before. All the good wishes to him but both the Jazz and Millsap grew out of each other some time ago.

So ugly wins don't count?
 
Very done with Millsap. It'll be nicer to see him perform in a weaker conference-- to see if he struggles with as much inconsistency in a starting role as he did over here in the NW.
 
Millsap would have been an awesome pick up at 3/24-- and Im sure he regrets not taking it. I'm just stoked that this means that Favors and Kanter will get the start.
 
This is one of the more respected advanced stats, similar to adjusted +/-.

It's adjusted +/- with Bayesian inferences, being they pre-adjust the statistics based in part on what they think the statistics should look like. Not something I would put much faith in.
 
It's adjusted +/- with Bayesian inferences, being they pre-adjust the statistics based in part on what they think the statistics should look like. Not something I would put much faith in.

that should go without saying!
 
It's adjusted +/- with Bayesian inferences, being they pre-adjust the statistics based in part on what they think the statistics should look like. Not something I would put much faith in.
I don't think this is correct. The prior they use is not subjective ("what they think"), but rather obtained from prior year statistics (IIRC, the stats are calculated using ridge regression, rookies are usually given a very poor prior).
 
Very done with Millsap. It'll be nicer to see him perform in a weaker conference-- to see if he struggles with as much inconsistency in a starting role as he did over here in the NW.

you saw inconsistency.
I saw remarkable consistency for a player asked to undergo a massive transition within the organization (from trying to win to treading water). A player that went from playing alongside one of the best PGs in the league, to playing second fiddle to Jefferson.

His inconsistencies are so dramatically over-rated on this board it's laughable.
 
All stats are just a guide to eyeball test and Millsap failed miserably last year after underwhelming performance year before. All the good wishes to him but both the Jazz and Millsap grew out of each other some time ago.

even michael jordan at pf would have looked like cj miles next to al jefferson on defense
 
I think Utah should look at re-signing him in 2 years when his deal with ATL is done. Utah will have hopefully solidified its starting five, with Favors and Kanters dominating the front court, and the team proven to be solid playoffs contenders by then in a 3-6 seed. Millsap could then return as the veteran 6th man and be a player that helps to take the Utah Jazz over the hump and into Western Conference Finals territory once again. That would be perfect full circle.
 
It's adjusted +/- with Bayesian inferences, being they pre-adjust the statistics based in part on what they think the statistics should look like. Not something I would put much faith in.

What stat do you find more reliable, and please don't say PER.
 
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