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Ace Bailey ROY watch

KqWIN said:
I see the MPJ comparison more now than during the draft cycle, but I still don’t like it. He’s doing similar things like moving off the ball, but MPJ has always been an elite shooter. Ace was not the most amazing shooting prospect, and if we’re being honest about the numbers you could call him a bad shooting prospect. I would be shocked if he’s as good as MPJ at shooting, but hopefully he can make up for it on defense and potentially do more with the ball in the future.

It’s just kinda funny be be like “you can’t draft that at 5”. What are we talking about, the first pick in the draft? An average starter is probably like medium outcome for a 5th pick.
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Ace's shooting is really good when he shoots his normal shot, but he ****s up his shooting motion constantly to try to get shots off. He shoots it differently all the time.

MPJ's entire career up until this year has had him taking almost uncontested jumpshots because he was playing with the best offensive player of all time other than MJ.
 
I think Ace would do better if he was on the court slashing around Key and Lauri with Kessler helping on D.

I also think Hardy has a locker room FULL of guys who have waited their turn and he would lose guys if he gave the starting minutes to a guy who isnt ready.

Having said that, Ace will get his chance when Svi has a tweak or with more losses. If I am Hardy I am biding my time until Ace is ready and the situation allows me to swap him in without pissing everyone off.

It may be December but when it happens it will help him open up his game.
 
Ace has to improve his 3 game. No question. His midrange is solid. He also needs to attack the rim more.

I like Ace setting up better shots. It isnt perfect but he has had plenty of great moments.

Remember Collier who SUCKED last year but got a chance and improved month after month until he was the starter?
 
I think he has a 50% chance of being a complete bust. I watched several of his games at Rutgers and was not impressed. He just doesnt play smart. He got by on pure athleticism but he'll need a lot more than that to be successful in the NBA
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Ace's shooting is really good when he shoots his normal shot, but he ****s up his shooting motion constantly to try to get shots off. He shoots it differently all the time.

MPJ's entire career up until this year has had him taking almost uncontested jumpshots because he was playing with the best offensive player of all time other than MJ.
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But was he really? No.
 
I just took a minute to look at rookie stats. There are only 17 rookies that average more than 15 minutes/game and have played at least 5 games: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/t...rExperience=Rookie&dir=A&sort=NBA_FANTASY_PTS

Unfortunately Ace and WCJ are towards the bottom of that list as far as productivity so far. I think Ace will get in contention for an all rookie team soon though. Here is where I would currently have the all rookie teams:

First Team:
Kon
VJ
Flagg
Coward
Harper

Second Team:
Kalkbrenner
Fears
CMB
Tre Johnson
Queen
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I just took a minute to look at rookie stats. There are only 17 rookies that average more than 15 minutes/game and have played at least 5 games: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/t...rExperience=Rookie&dir=A&sort=NBA_FANTASY_PTS

Unfortunately Ace and WCJ are towards the bottom of that list as far as productivity so far. I think Ace will get in contention for an all rookie team soon though. Here is where I would currently have the all rookie teams:

First Team:
Kon
VJ
Flagg
Coward
Harper

Second Team:
Kalkbrenner
Fears
CMB
Tre Johnson
Queen
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It's interesting that things are shaking out very close to draft position so far. Obviously Kalkbrenner is the big surprise as playing much better than draft position.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I just took a minute to look at rookie stats. There are only 17 rookies that average more than 15 minutes/game and have played at least 5 games: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/t...rExperience=Rookie&dir=A&sort=NBA_FANTASY_PTS

Unfortunately Ace and WCJ are towards the bottom of that list as far as productivity so far. I think Ace will get in contention for an all rookie team soon though. Here is where I would currently have the all rookie teams:

First Team:
Kon
VJ
Flagg
Coward
Harper

Second Team:
Kalkbrenner
Fears
CMB
Tre Johnson
Queen
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What has happened to Harper? I have checked the box score the last 2 games and didn't even see his name listed at all.
He injured?
 
Here is an interesting tidbit I found after looking at those rookie comparisons using production per 36 min: WCJ has the second highest per minute total for combined rebounds/assist (12.7)- after Derik Queen at (13.5). Cedric Coward 12.2, Dylan Harper 12.1, and Noah Penda 12.0 are the next 3 in production....

SoberasHotRod said:
I just took a minute to look at rookie stats. There are only 17 rookies that average more than 15 minutes/game and have played at least 5 games: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/t...rExperience=Rookie&dir=A&sort=NBA_FANTASY_PTS

Unfortunately Ace and WCJ are towards the bottom of that list as far as productivity so far. I think Ace will get in contention for an all rookie team soon though. Here is where I would currently have the all rookie teams:

First Team:
Kon
VJ
Flagg
Coward
Harper

Second Team:
Kalkbrenner
Fears
CMB
Tre Johnson
Quee
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