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Acta signed!!!!

Great point about some music industry mafia don sitting on on a meeting that was kept secret from the public.

Also, great point about China and Russia not signing it. What have we come to if China and Russia are the ones with unobtrusive governments looking out for the people, while the USA gives mafia dons authority to perform deep packet inspection without a warrant?

Wow, I never thought I would see this in my lifetime.

This is probably not what you think it is. I don't know that much about ACTA, but I'm very familiar with TRIPS. That's an economic competitiveness and policing issue, not some kind of human rights issue.
 
This is argument by analogy though. I think you're going to have to do a little more explaining regarding why deep packet inspection is fundamentally different from what is authorized under present US law and what specific rights are violated.

I think there's sort of this maxim at work that everything about the internet is totally free that's guiding a thought process here. I don't believe that's necessarily true or even particularly wise so I'm not jumping all over any boogeyman as a result.
Currently you need a warrant to gain access to someone's data. You can't just install a spy app on my computer and intercept my data without a warrant (unless you suspect me of being a terrorist or whatever under the patriot act). Deep packet inspection makes that private data available to whoever is implementing it.

So for example, right now the local law enforcement needs a warrant to monitor your internet browsing. Under this some record company exec would be able to not only monitor it, but have all of your info, without a warrant. Deep packet inspection doesn't just give you the url of a site visited, it basically records the screen and all keystrokes, mouse clicks, etc. It mirrors your computer(s) and saves it like a recording.

And this is being considered without a warrant, and allowing non government entities to do it too. It's absolutely mind blowing that Rupert Murdoch, for example, will have the legal authority to utilize deep packet inspection on citizens of this country without a warrant.
 
This is probably not what you think it is. I don't know that much about ACTA, but I'm very familiar with TRIPS. That's an economic competitiveness and policing issue, not some kind of human rights issue.

how is it not a human right issue?
deep packet inspection.
surveillance without warrants.
"Punishment" without a trial?
possible freedom of speech violations.
accessibility to free information might be restricted(information that has no copyright on it)

aren't those human rights?
 
deniying human rights organizations to oversee/attend the acta negotiations while some fat greesy ceo of some private company was allowed in is in essence a human rights violations. or not?
 
I have no clue what ACTA is. A protein right? But....

Which ever position big business, wall street, and rich people are for, I'll be against.
 
In intenet terms, deep packet inspection would be a lot like the government being able to randomly turn on a camera in your personal bedroom for no other reason than they saw a lot of people enter your home.

If you're living on the street, or in some other public property. The internet is not like your home. You are sending packets around tens or hundreds of servers that you don't own, putting them on public display. If you walk around town with holes in your clothes, people are going to see you skin.
 
If you're living on the street, or in some other public property. The internet is not like your home. You are sending packets around tens or hundreds of servers that you don't own, putting them on public display. If you walk around town with holes in your clothes, people are going to see you skin.

problem is depe packet inspection is like walking the street fully cloth but some people have advanced xray vision the one i used to dream about when i was a teenager :D
 
problem is depe packet inspection is like walking the street fully cloth but some people have advanced xray vision the one i used to dream about when i was a teenager :D
Unless they are actually installing software on your machine, they can only see what you show to the public. Is anyone claiming that ACTA allows people to install software on personal PCs?
 
Unless they are actually installing software on your machine, they can only see what you show to the public. Is anyone claiming that ACTA allows people to install software on personal PCs?

you clearly dont know what you are talking about.
when i skype with someone is that shown to the public? really? Guess not it's a personal.
but ok. this message is "shown" tot he public but other stufff is not.
 
also your email to your mom is it public?

if so would you send me a copy off all those emails?
also the emails you send to Irs(DONT KNOW IF irs DOES STUFF ONLINE in USA but over here they do)
 
you know what one brow the more i think about it the more i think you are just janking my chain. cus nobody can be that Stupid/naiv
 
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