Affordable Care?

[Scat]

As for this guarantee of Social Security? Soon they will not be able to make all their payments. What then?

I'm sure Salty will opt out of receiving SS so that those who are less fortunate will still get their monthly check.

 

[Gameface]

I just want to know when my free insurance starts? And will my free phone arrive with the ACA insurance card or do they ship that separately?

 

[SaltyDawg]

Because they are so well run and do not take up vast portions of our spending. Because they are not money pits that are ineffectively run.

As for this guarantee of Social Security? Soon they will not be able to make all their payments. What then?

Then tax the first $500,000 of income instead of only the first $100,000 or whatever it is now.

Tell your grandma to go get insurance in the open market. See how much insurance companies want to charge old people who are often in need of medical care (if they will even cover them at all). Medicare is a good thing, and that's why almost all the old timers are against getting rid of it.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I'm sure Salty will opt out of receiving SS so that those who are less fortunate will still get their monthly check.

No way. I'm planning on getting mine. If you want to raise my taxes a bit, fine, raise them. I wouldn't miss an extra $10 or whatever. But don't attempt to cut the benefits.

 

[Stoked]

Then tax the first $500,000 of income instead of only the first $100,000 or whatever it is now.

Tell your grandma to go get insurance in the open market. See how much insurance companies want to charge old people who are often in need of medical care (if they will even cover them at all). Medicare is a good thing, and that's why almost all the old timers are against getting rid of it.

Medicare was a good idea ran into the ground by an inept government. You are missing the point. I am not saying those programs are bad ideas. I am saying they are proof that government is incapable of running anything let alone our lives. To much redtape, policies, laws, beurcracy...

 

[One Brow]

And both are shinning examples of why government needs to stay as out of peoples lives as possible.

Anyone who thinks that either SS or Medicare has made the lives of seniors worse really needs to read up what it was like to be poor and elderly in the 1920s.

 

[One Brow]

As for this guarantee of Social Security? Soon they will not be able to make all their payments. What then?

The absolute worst projection is that they will still make 70% of their payments, which is better than a major market crash.

 

[Stoked]

Anyone who thinks that either SS or Medicare has made the lives of seniors worse really needs to read up what it was like to be poor and elderly in the 1920s.

Way to miss the point Salty. I mean One Brow.

Anyone who thinks they are efficiently and responsibly run needs to read up on how they are run.

 

[Stoked]

The absolute worst projection is that they will still make 70% of their payments, which is better than a major market crash.

To start off with. That does nothing to solve the problem. Just a change forced on them from years and years of inaction.

 

[One Brow]

To much redtape, policies, laws, beurcracy...

At least government bureaucracy is indifferent. Corporate bureaucracies, policies, and red tape are by design difficult to navigate for policyholders.

 

[One Brow]

Anyone who thinks they are efficiently and responsibly run needs to read up on how they are run.

Compared to private alternatives, they are efficiently run. The reason fraud numbers are so high is scale, not ineffectiveness.

 

[One Brow]

To start off with. That does nothing to solve the problem. Just a change forced on them from years and years of inaction.

You asked what the guarantee was. It's 70% of projections, even if nothing else changes.