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One Brow said:
You asked what the guarantee was. It's 70% of projections, even if nothing else changes.
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No I didn't. I know what it is. Again that ignores the fact that one of the problems is well known to grow and contiue. That 70% is if nothing changes when they know it will. It will change for the worse but they don't want to tell you that.

Again, they know it will. Not they think or maybe, they know...
 
The bottom line is almost everyone that has experience actually using social security and Medicare would not give it up for any "private sector" solution. The only people complaining about them and calling for them to be replaced by private sector solutions are people who don't use them.
 
SaltyDawg said:
The bottom line is almost everyone that has experience actually using social security and Medicare would not give it up for any "private sector" solution. The only people complaining about them and calling for them to be replaced by private sector solutions are people who don't use them.
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So what you are saying is that each side is looking out for their best interest? No ****?

People receiving SSA and Medicare want it to stay since it's to late for them to make the living they were before and people that know it will be gone by the time they are eligible, since it is so poorly run/flawed and not being fixed, want nothing to do with it.

Stunning. I think you are on to something ground breaking Salty.
 
Stoked said:
So what you are saying is that each side is looking out for their best interest? No ****?

People receiving SSA and Medicare want it to stay since it's to late for them to make the living they were before and people that know it will be gone by the time they are eligible, since it is so poorly run/flawed and not being fixed, want nothing to do with it.

Stunning. I think you are on to something ground breaking Salty.
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying the people who would know if it's a terribly run program, the people who actually use it, prefer it to the alternatives.

Again, try to get an insurance company to offer medical insurance to an 80 year old man. See if they'll accept him at all. If they will, the price will be sky high. And if the old man can somehow afford it, he'll almost certainly be dropped within the first couple years, after the insurance company gets tired of paying for hip replacements, heart surgery, tons of medications, and all the rest of the expensive medical care that old people typically need.
 
SaltyDawg said:
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying the people who would know if it's a terribly run program, the people who actually use it, prefer it to the alternatives.

Again, try to get an insurance company to offer medical insurance to an 80 year old man. See if they'll accept him at all. If they will, the price will be sky high. And if the old man can somehow afford it, he'll almost certainly be dropped within the first couple years, after the insurance company gets tired of paying for hip replacements, heart surgery, tons of medications, and all the rest of the expensive medical care that old people typically need.
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People on it complain all day, every day. The problem is that at that point in their lives there is no viable alternative. Since they are screwed with a horribly run program we should submit future generations to the same fate?

No thanks.
 
Stoked said:
People on it complain all day, every day. The problem is that at that point in their lives there is no viable alternative. Since they are screwed with a horribly run program we should submit future generations to the same fate?

No thanks.
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There is absolutely an alternative, lol. Nobody is forced to use Medicare. Every single person on Medicare has the option to go get whatever insurance they want.

So if it's so terrible, and a private sector solution would be so much better, then why does anyone even use it?
 
SaltyDawg said:
There is absolutely an alternative, lol. Nobody is forced to use Medicare. Every single person on Medicare has the option to go get whatever insurance they want.

So if it's so terrible, and a private sector solution would be so much better, then why does anyone even use it?
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Stoked said:
That 70% is if nothing changes when they know it will. It will change for the worse but they don't want to tell you that.

Again, they know it will. Not they think or maybe, they know...
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In what year, by whose current projections, does the rate fall below 70%?
 
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