Not happy about getting one of the better big men in the league for 2 nearly worthless picks? What would make you happy?
Al Jefferson to Utah? ...Mark Stein's Twitter reports
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Not happy about getting one of the better big men in the league for 2 nearly worthless picks? What would make you happy?
Boozer may be twice as better, but AJ will be just as good of a player in our offense, and the net gain will probably be positive in the long run. PM/AJ > CB/MO.
dantheman
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I'm willing to drink the kool-aid and be excited about this, it's better than no move at all. We get someone with a low post presence, who can play some 5, and get some boards, which is great with Memo in his current condition. If money and contracts weren't part of the equation and I was asked Boozer or Al, I would take Boozer. But, it is what it is, Al will be a nice player and might keep Deron from leaving in two years. Plus, Al's contract is only 3 more years. Consider me cautiously optimistic.
Guitaro
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It never was ∞. You could only go as fast as the road conditions and safety would dictate. In other words, people would still get tickets for going over 100mph. Yet, the fine was dirt cheap and so most people would speed and just pay the fine right there on the spot.
Also, at night it always was and still is 65 at night, 55 for trucks. However, the speed limit was changed again in the last few years. I think it's down to 75-85 now. I don't remember because I was a passenger the last time I drove through there.
Do you completely talk out of your *** to stand out or to be stubborn?
So tell me how Boozer coming to the Jazz and allowing them to match is not relevant, in addition to the fact that the TPE created by the trade is the keystone to the entire deal? I've been critical forever, most notably with drafting Hayward (sidenote; if the argument for drafting Hayward is that he's a winner, why is it not also an argument against Jefferson for being a loser his entire career). I would've drafted Aldrich (and about 10 other people besides Evans while still going after Evans to sign him in undrafted free agency) and kept Boozer (which is relevant since the Jazz are spending very similar money for the next 3 years anyway). I would try to dump Memo (but don't know how feasible it is) and would explore trading AK but only for lesser salary longterm since the Jazz would be over the cap (and when under the cap, you try maximize the space) and trying to stay under the tax. Would probably keep AK and try to re-sign him in the offseason for much cheaper. I wouldn't match Matthews. I would explore re-signing Brewer for cheap but only under those circumstances.
I would also look at just not re-signing Boozer at all and using cap space like OKC has done - taking on expiring contracts from poorly managed teams like the Jazz and stockpile draft picks from it - and emphasize parlaying assets to get fewer, stronger ones. I wouldn't take on Jefferson.
Rock on. Keep talking out of your ***.
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Jazz4ever
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I am happy, I just think KOC panicked a little to throw two firsts when it could have been done with one. The deal still blew what Dallas was offering away (garbage contracts and a lower 1st rounder).
Marty McFly
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Come on man. We gave up two first round picks (which will both be 16-22ish) for a guy that's younger, taller, cheaper, and signed to less years than Boozer who was gone no matter what. If we signed Boozer, you and I both know that in 5 years when he's a 15/9 guy and constantly injured, you would be bitching about Greg Miller signing him to that deal. You're probably the only person outside of Chicago who is so adamant that a 29 year old Boozer deserves 80 million guaranteed dollars.
I find it hilarious how you are so mad about Jefferson's injury history. He missed part of ONE season because of a blown ACL. He came back and played a full season after it. But you let Boozer off the hook for his injury history? Bitch please. Get over the blind Greg Miller hate or go be a Bulls fan.
Fixed.
You have such a simple, one-track mind. To think my issue(s) are all about Boozer is completely missing the point.
Again, my problem is more Jefferson than anything. I've never liked him as a player on or off the court and he has a long way to go to make me eat crow. Like have a his second (or rather, his first being a relevant player) winning season, for starters.
Marty McFly
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OK. That's fine, but I'm still waiting for YOUR proposed plan for the offseason which you've never posted. You know, since you are so much better at managing a franchise than one of the most successful organizations of the past 2 decades.
billyshelby
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I was responding to the comment about Booze being 'twice' as good at a 'relatively cheap' price. My answer to the defensive issue is this: We were a better defensive team last year even with Booze and Okur. A lot of that was improvement on the perimeter, some of it was better effort from Booze, but most of it was just the drastic improvement in our rotations. Jefferson is obviously not going to be Howard. But he's a massive body down low. Not one center in the league will push him around or get easy position on the block. His help defense is the big mystery, but I'm guessing he's going to be fine playing on a team where a defensive system is stressed and he knows what role to fill. Lastly, I think we will see AK playing more 4 next year which will help our interior D on the whole.
Is that a championship defense? Probably not. But it could be a lot better than people think if the whole team keeps coming together.