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Alec Baldwin shoots and kills one, injures another.

I was always under the impression the guns are basically real, but loaded with special rounds designed to get the “blast”. That’s why you still get the blast, but not the kick.


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I think you are correct. And that is dumb. Why not use guns that literally wouldn't be able to fire a real bullet if one was loaded into it?
 
He didn't kill another actor. He killed a cinematographer and injured a director.

Two people. Two people who should have never been shot even with a prop gun.

I want to know WTF was going on on that set.

Here's a KSL article that provides some additional info as to how this stuff is supposed to work.



My guess would be setting up a shot where he fires a gun down the barrel of the camera.
 
The anti-gun hypocrite has more kills than 99% of NRA. It's amazingly sad that this happened while glorifying the very thing he hates but maybe next time he not point a loaded gun with what now looks to be real ammo that was having issues beforehand at people... Something I was taught at age 4. Ironic that his crew walked off due to safety negligence right before he killed that poor person. This was neglect. Gun safety never stops.
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Sounds like the armorer was fairly new and inexperienced. I read that it was a real bullet. An armorer allowing that on set simply didn't do her job.

And an armorer should never allow guns to be pointed at another person, even if firing blanks.
 
I don’t understand why live ammo would even be allowed on a movie set. Like why? What would be the need or reason for that?


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I don’t understand why live ammo would even be allowed on a movie set. Like why? What would be the need or reason for that?


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The armorer was a 24 woman with little experience. Evidently her grandfather was a top armorer for old west films. I'm guessing her short career has already ended.

Controlled sets have the armorer in control of the guns between takes, being the only person to touch them before and after takes. In this case, the assistant director, not the armorer, handed the gun to Baldwin and declared it to be a cold gun (no rounds, blank or otherwise). Crazy.

I read one article stating it was a real bullet, and others that it was a blank (blanks also referred as live rounds).
 
He didn't kill another actor. He killed a cinematographer and injured a director.

Two people. Two people who should have never been shot even with a prop gun.

I want to know WTF was going on on that set.

Here's a KSL article that provides some additional info as to how this stuff is supposed to work.

I only know this story from people talking about it and probably won't get too deep into it, but I just read the KSL article and the thing that stands out to me is that this film is apparently set in the 1800s. The question was obviously asked about why live ammo was in a prop gun, but even more curious is that this prop gun would be an 1800s gun and presumably require specific ammo that perhaps you can't just go and get (I have no idea, I'm not a huge gun enthusiast).
 
I only know this story from people talking about it and probably won't get too deep into it, but I just read the KSL article and the thing that stands out to me is that this film is apparently set in the 1800s. The question was obviously asked about why live ammo was in a prop gun, but even more curious is that this prop gun would be an 1800s gun and presumably require specific ammo that perhaps you can't just go and get (I have no idea, I'm not a huge gun enthusiast).
Prop guns are usually replicas. Depends on how important the gun is to the story. In the Matrix, for example, they used desert eagles and Berettas and each character had their specific gun. But they would have been modified so the action will cycle but nothing will be fired of course. Using blanks is very common. A blank load can be built to cycle the action as well. But if they really had live ammo, that's ridiculous. My thought was it was something like what happened in the crow, where the gun had a bullet lodged in the barrel so the blank charge was enough to propel the bullet and kill Lee. A live round on set is inexcusable.
 
I only know this story from people talking about it and probably won't get too deep into it, but I just read the KSL article and the thing that stands out to me is that this film is apparently set in the 1800s. The question was obviously asked about why live ammo was in a prop gun, but even more curious is that this prop gun would be an 1800s gun and presumably require specific ammo that perhaps you can't just go and get (I have no idea, I'm not a huge gun enthusiast).
It was a Colt 45, and yes, blanks and real ammo are easy to procure for this model.

It is being reported that the crew was using this same pistol with real ammo for target practice.

A good armorer would have NEVER allowed it to be out of their possession, let alone be used with real ammo. Sheer incompetence.
 
Despite being very pro 2A, owning, and shooting guns my entire life, I’ve never seen (that I can recall) a blank round. They don’t look the same as a live round, right? I mean, I’d there a bullet on the end? Or is it just the “shell” or “casing” with a cover to keep the powder in (think like a shotgun shell look)?


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