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Alec has taken over as our alpha dog.

If Alex is our alpha dog, we get lotto for next few years. he is decent but very very one dimensional. Not saying Hayward is the answer either..keep em both, good 3-4 options, maybe Gtime can move up to 2 option someday...Alex is 3-4 at best

Right. The guy who can't create his own shot can be a 2nd option, and the guy who can create his own shot will only be 3-4th option AT BEST. Okay.
 
So I want to know.....

... is Alec good enough to be a #1 option on a good team?
... If Hayward struggles like this with burk as the alpha, would he be any different with Jabbari or any other alpha?
... If the jazz got a franchise player in the draft, could burks play second? Better than Hayward?

Yes, he would be a better 2nd option than Hayward, if we got a guy like Jabari. You have to be able to consistently create your own shot to be a 2nd option, and Hayward simply doesn't have the handles for that. Burks does.
 
Yes, he would be a better 2nd option than Hayward, if we got a guy like Jabari. You have to be able to consistently create your own shot to be a 2nd option, and Hayward simply doesn't have the handles for that. Burks does.

Jabari, Burks, Hayward,Kanter/Favors. and room to grow. Me likies.
 
Burks has scored at least 23 points three games in a row.

How many times did he play 30 minutes? Zero.
 
He got 29 tonight so it's a little silly to worry about it. I am so excited to see what he can do in a real offensive system next year.
 
I seriously would like someone to tell me what they don't like about burks. His game is pretty good, he is super young, never bitches, has a great attitude, tons of confidence, and is a hard worker.

So I don't like his defense. It's Melo'esque. aka non existent.
He takes difficult shots often. While they go in right now, I still wanna see consistency with the ability to overcome off nights before I jump on the Burks bandwagon. He hasn't shown that as of yet. Plus some efficiency would be nice. But see yourself.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/burksal01.html
https://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=202692&MeasureType=Advanced&PerMode=PerGame
The differences in evaluation of bbalref and NBA.com I explain by both having a different interpretation of possessions(NBA.com seems to count a play that occurs after an offensive board as a seperate possession while bballref says: They kept the possession alive via O-Reb.
You can see a 31.1% usage rate in February. That's superstar touches. His TOs have gone up since getting more opportunities.
Look at the huge discrepancy in the off rtg column between wins and losses. 10.6
You know what that means? Bill Simmons would call him a "heat-check-guy". And that's why he's coming off the bench. Because he doesn't have consistency and with this Jazz lineup apparently an off night of him hurts his team.

He got 29 tonight so it's a little silly to worry about it. I am so excited to see what he can do in a real offensive system next year.

Jazz are running proper plays for his tendencies.
 
Slick Pimp is a straight beast and if you still can't see it there's no hope for you. He's in his third year but mah boi was gettin DNP's on the regular his first two years. By the end of this season his career minutes will be about equal to a day 1 rookie starter.
 
I seriously would like someone to tell me what they don't like about burks. His game is pretty good, he is super young, never bitches, has a great attitude, tons of confidence, and is a hard worker.

Needs to work on his drive and dishing game if he ever wants to surpass being a scorer. Sometimes he isn't aware of how many people are collapsing on him and he tries a shot that is unnecessarily difficult when he could just kick it out.
 
Needs to work on his drive and dishing game if he ever wants to surpass being a scorer. Sometimes he isn't aware of how many people are collapsing on him and he tries a shot that is unnecessarily difficult when he could just kick it out.

Why dish when you score every time you drive?
 
People hate on burks...
Who hates on Burks? I can't think of a single poster on Jazzfanz who fits this description.

On topic: Burks has been impressive this year. One thing that isn't often mentioned is his improved spot-up game. Per NBA.com's player tracking data, he has an eFG% of .618 in catch and shoot opportunities (.453 3FG%), which is second on the team behind Diante (who's also starting to look like a passable backup 1). Synergy Sports has him at 1.06 Points per possession on spot ups (.458 3FG%). Pretty impressive numbers. I suspect his overall 3FG% is as low as it, at least in part, because he shoots a lot of last second deep 3s (Synergy Sports has him shooting and missing 14 3s listed under "All Other Plays"). If he were used as an off-ball player more, hanging out in the corner, he could conceivably get his 3FG% up in the 37-40% range (or higher?). Dude's a keeper; hopefully the Jazz can lock him up this summer.

With all that said, I still don't mind him coming off the bench for now with the Jazz roster as it is. Just need to bring him in a bit earlier in the 1st and 3rd (6-7 minute mark), which would allow him to get a 2 minute rest later on and still play 32+ minutes per game.
 
So I see Alec is the new, He is the best eva!!! guy on the forums...ok, I will let it ride for a while until the bandwagoners turn on him...as they always do...

I don't know about the best eva but he is the only core player that hasn't been wildly inconsistent and has shown improvement every season - all while getting the least amount of regard from the coaching staff.
 
Burks is playing the best ball on the team right now and it's not close. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or an indictment of the rest of the team.
 
Burks always brings energy when he is on the court. You can't say that for Hayward. Some times you don't now Hayward is on the court until he commits another turn over. Let's face it, Alec Burks is the only guy on the team who can consistently create a good shot. Just think what Alec could do if he had a good coach who actually ran plays for him.
 
So I see Alec is the new, He is the best eva!!! guy on the forums...ok, I will let it ride for a while until the bandwagoners turn on him...as they always do...

You realize that this is the first time he has had these kind of opportunities right?
 
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