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Where was the part where he said that Obama wanted open borders?

While Obama(and Hillary) give lip service to Marxist determinism, which includes eventual dissolution of national borders, neither is or ever has been free to just do whatever they want. And while they have done astonishing feats of disregarding law and principles of every kind, it does not mean they are hypocrites. They are hirelings, not revolutionaries. They actually have no principles or beliefs that matter.

The point is, they are demonstrating the power of their political benefactors/managers.... the few, the proud, the arrogant... the UN-Americans...… those few real powerful inner circles..... who are demonstrating their power, for show.

Their methods align quite well with the philosophical ideas of Napoleon and many other historical dictators across the ages.... they are best described by the idea, the philosophical claim, of "arrogance of power". Meaning, when you have the power you are above the law, you are beyond criticism, beyond the reach of reason. You simply display the ability to do what you want, without accountability and without justification.

AOC is not her own person, really. She was found, and financed, by The Young Turks..... by very wealthy backers of the Young Turks, who wish to use socialism to degrade the American principles of liberty. The Democratic Party is in turmoil, but it is only a quarrel between contestant look-a-likes vying for the leadership of the "Democratic Socialists", really the communiast (fake progressives) who think this is their hour.

Since this is not any kind of ideological or principled "cause", don't look for consistency or beliefs or any kind of reason, or any kind of vision for the future. This is simply a contest for raw, unaccountable, unchallengeable POWER over the human destiny. Just who wins..... does not matter. What does matter is that it is a "final solution" to the problem of limited governance for the fascists of our day.

And aren't ya'll just proud to be the chumps who help that happen.
 
When it's pointed out that Obama had the same policies Cuomo says that is proof that Obama was following the law.

Obama had the same system, but not the same policies, which is why he had far fewer people in detention, and they never became concentration camps.

I'm still wondering if you are going to justify your claim that progressives are somehow obstructing the President here. Soon? Never?
 
Obama had the same system, but not the same policies, which is why he had far fewer people in detention, and they never became concentration camps.

I'm still wondering if you are going to justify your claim that progressives are somehow obstructing the President here. Soon? Never?
Wonder no more. There are numerous active lawsuits against the Trump Administration's immigration policy. There are numerous cities that have passed sanctuary city policies. There are numerous Democratic presidential candidates decrying everything that Trump does or says, including immigration. There are numerous progressive media members beating a constant drum against Trump. All he has to do is take a position and they can be counted on to take an opposing position. It seems impossible that anyone could possibly miss the fact that progressives are attempting to obstruct the president in any and every way available to them.

And now I have a question for you. What is the number where "people in detention" transforms to "concentration camp"?
 
I’m not sure who this “he” that you are referring to. And I never said one specific person said it. It is a mantra that I have heard from many trump lemmings.

I’ve heard this in connection to Clinton and the 2020s but not Pres. Obama.
 
Wonder no more. There are numerous active lawsuits against the Trump Administration's immigration policy. There are numerous cities that have passed sanctuary city policies. There are numerous Democratic presidential candidates decrying everything that Trump does or says, including immigration. There are numerous progressive media members beating a constant drum against Trump. All he has to do is take a position and they can be counted on to take an opposing position. It seems impossible that anyone could possibly miss the fact that progressives are attempting to obstruct the president in any and every way available to them.

Here's your original (you may have forgotten it):
If you can't see that progressives are attempting to obstruct and complicate everything that the current administration attempts to do, even when those actions are in alignment with goals that progressives were in support of immediately before this president took office, then you aren't paying attention.If you can't see that progressives are attempting to obstruct and complicate everything that the current administration attempts to do, even when those actions are in alignment with goals that progressives were in support of immediately before this president took office, then you aren't paying attention.

I do see lawsuits complicating the revocation of DACA. However, DACA has widespread support (not just among progressives, either). Cities also fought against Obama's deportation policies; since Obama was quieter about his deportations, the cities refusing to cooperate didn't make news.

Presidential candidates and news organizations can't obstruct the President (unless you think mere discussion of his actions is obstruction/complication), and I don't think you will find many that have significantly changed their views on immigration versus three years ago.

Your whole narrative that Trump if facing some unusual backlash is a lie that has been fed to you.

And now I have a question for you. What is the number where "people in detention" transforms to "concentration camp"?

I don't have a hard, clear line, but when the number of people so outstrips the ability to provide for them that our administration is arguing before the supreme court that a lack of soap, a lack of mattresses to sleep upon, and the use of aluminum foil blankets still provides a sanitary conditions, we have certainly crossed that threshold.
 
Here's your original (you may have forgotten it):


I do see lawsuits complicating the revocation of DACA. However, DACA has widespread support (not just among progressives, either). Cities also fought against Obama's deportation policies; since Obama was quieter about his deportations, the cities refusing to cooperate didn't make news.

Presidential candidates and news organizations can't obstruct the President (unless you think mere discussion of his actions is obstruction/complication), and I don't think you will find many that have significantly changed their views on immigration versus three years ago.

Your whole narrative that Trump if facing some unusual backlash is a lie that has been fed to you.
DACA is not the only thing being litigated. Not even close. To me it is easy to see that progressives are taking obstruction to new heights. After all, they are bragging about doing so. Maxine Waters has told her constituents to disrupt conservative politicians whenever they come across them, at restaurants, gas stations, etc. I think the only reason you're arguing otherwise is that you like to argue.

The backlash is not some lie that has been fed to me. That's a ridiculous claim. I can understand the thinking of those who claim the backlash is deserved. I don't see the point of arguing whether or not it is actually happening.
 
DACA is not the only thing being litigated. Not even close. To me it is easy to see that progressives are taking obstruction to new heights. After all, they are bragging about doing so.

What are the other immigration-related litigations? Conditions in the camps?

Same old, same old on obstruction. McConnell said on the Senate floor that his primary goal was to make Obama a one-term President. I'm sure that's because he was planning o being super-cooperative.

The backlash is not some lie that has been fed to me.

The notion that it is unusual, or of a larger scale than faced by Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, or Obama, is a lie.
 
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