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infection said:
Larry died like in 2008. It wasn't until 2010 or so before we hit the LT. I believe the Millers know that at some point paying the LT may be the best business decision and will bet a better return on their money -- I don't believe they're that short-sighted and I believe they've got confidence in DL who I believe can lead them along there -- contrast to KOC, I had no confidence in him. He and Greg were the blind leading the blind.
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Larry died in 2009.. we paid luxury tax in 2009-10 and 2010-11. Since 2013 we have operated under the cap with the last two years at the floor. Selling picks along the way.

I have no problem with this activity if they will pay to keep the team together and continue improving it. I would even support salary dumping Burks to lessen the tax hit. I just have a problem with the view that some have that we are willing to spend based on someone stating we are willing to spend. I look at our actions last few years and it's been quite frugal.
 
Do we really want Hayward to get the supermax, though? It makes this off season and this coming year a lot nicer, but the numbers on the back end of the contract are truly ridiculous--and in my opinion would seriously hamper the team around 4 years from now.

I'm kind of thinking the best case scenario for us is for Gobert to make the all-NBA team (because it doesn't affect his contract), but for Hayward to miss it (but to still re-sign with the Jazz of course). Certainly financially speaking that seems best.
 
colton said:
Do we really want Hayward to get the supermax, though? It makes this off season and this coming year a lot nicer, but the numbers on the back end of the contract are truly ridiculous--and in my opinion would seriously hamper the team around 4 years from now.

I'm kind of thinking the best case scenario for us is for Gobert to make the all-NBA team (because it doesn't affect his contract), but for Hayward to miss it (but to still re-sign with the Jazz of course). Certainly financially speaking that seems best.
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I agree best course is he gets reduced 5-year max, but if it gives us a big advantage in retaining him then I'd take it now over the uncertainty... the cap space is a side benefit.

If he leaves its fairly catastrophic... think we will be okay with the backend of the deal even if it isn't ideal.
 
Well just got the update on the phone, Rudy 2nd team, no Hayward

1st - Westbrook, Harden, James, Leonard, Davis
2nd - Curry, IT, KD, Giannis, Rudy
3rd - Wall, Derozan, Green, Butler, Jordan
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We've done this dance before... we could have signed value deals several years ago. I know we bought a pick, but if we are operating at the floor why are we selling picks with good players on the board.

I don't want us to be the Clippers or Brooklyn and Portland nailed the offseason two years ago and then effed it up the past offseason, but we had ample opportunity to spend with hamstringing the future. Likely cost us the playoffs last year. Not a huge deal.

If we setup all that flexibility and watch Hayward leave it is a fail... if we balk at paying luxury tax to retain Ingles or Hill then what have we saved all this flexibility for? This summer is the acid test... that is all I am saying.
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Sometimes it simply comes down to roster spots and not wanting to carry 10 guys who are rooks and sophs. And although you may think there are still good players on the board, our FO may look at it differently. It just bugs me to hear someone repeatedly talking about selling picks when we have also spent when there was a guy we wanted, and Utah has had an overabundance of picks and couldn't possible use them all.
 
Gobert over Draymond.

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Cappy_Smurf said:
Sometimes it simply comes down to roster spots and not wanting to carry 10 guys who are rooks and sophs. And although you may think there are still good players on the board, our FO may look at it differently. It just bugs me to hear someone repeatedly talking about selling picks when we have also spent when there was a guy we wanted, and Utah has had an overabundance of picks that that can't possible use them all.
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I understand and that is a valid point, but you can use them for draft and stash... we also had guys taking up roster spots that were d league guys in prior years. When you are developing guys and mining for gold bringing in 4 rookies might be a necessary evil. More bites at the apple.
 
Congrats to Rudy!

Sucks DeAndre gets a spot when Hayward and George are left off...
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Sometimes it simply comes down to roster spots and not wanting to carry 10 guys who are rooks and sophs. And although you may think there are still good players on the board, our FO may look at it differently. It just bugs me to hear someone repeatedly talking about selling picks when we have also spent when there was a guy we wanted, and Utah has had an overabundance of picks and couldn't possible use them all.
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Some people aren't really fans of NBA games, they are fans of draft prospects and front office strategy. HH, with his obsession of the D-league, his concern for how much money the team spends, his concern for drafting non-NBA talent, leads me to an assumption about what category of fan he is.
 
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