All-Time NBA Draft Final Four: addictionary vs. White Chocolate

[Elizah Huge]

I actually think that westbrook > stockton if each player is their best. Westbrook averaged a triple double last year and won the mvp. I don't think stockton could handle his speed, power, and explosiveness I don't we have ever seen a pg with his speed, power, and explosiveness. (Maybe mvp D Rose)

Harden and pierce is about a tie to me though I'm pretty certain that if harden plays as long as pierce he will pass him in pretty much every statistic.

Pippen is much better than masburn.

I think the brow is better than barkley. Difference is that with barkley you have a whole career to look at how awesome he is. The brow is 23 years old. As a 23 year old he averaged 28 points and 12 rebounds along with 2.2 blocks per game. Shoots 80% from the line and gets there often and is a better three point shooter than barkley.

Barkley averaged 28 ppg once in his 16 year career. Both great rebounders, with the brow being the better defender (Especially with his length against short bigs that can't shoot the 3 like barkley), and barkley the better passer.

I get why you and others would knock the brow cause good career has been so short but again I would bet that if AD plays as long as barkley he will pass him statically in many categories.

I actually think the Shaq vs Alonzo matchup is closer than you do with Shaq of course coming out on top.

I think WC has the better bench.

The same argument you used for Westbrook against Stockton can be used for Barkley against Davis. Barkley is the only PF to ever average 25, 12, and 5 and he won the MVP that year.

 

[fishonjazz]

The same argument you used for Westbrook against Stockton can be used for Barkley against Davis. Barkley is the only PF to ever average 25, 12, and 5 and he won the MVP that year.

Not really though. Barkley averaged 25, 12, and 5 for a year. AD averaged 28, 12, and 2.1 plus 2.2 blocks (better defense) on less minutes per game as a 23 year old last year. (Barkley was 29 years old that season)

So the brow had similar stats to barkley in the season you reference (more points and blocks, less aasists) in less minutes at a much younger age.

 

[addictionary]

Sure, but putting two guys who don't like each other on the same team is...interesting.

Yeah someone -might be tfivas- put Jordan And Isiah on the same team in previous years. heh.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Not really though. Barkley averaged 25, 12, and 5 for a year. AD averaged 28, 12, and 2.1 plus 2.2 blocks (better defense) on less minutes per game as a 23 year old last year. (Barkley was 29 years old that season)

So the brow had similar stats to barkley in the season you reference (more points and blocks, less aasists) in less minutes at a much younger age.

Barkley had a much lower usage rate (26.9% vs. 32.6% for AD) and was more efficient. He shot 52% on 18 shots a game vs. 50% on 20 shots a game for AD.

Age has nothing to do with this. We aren't projecting whether someone is going to have a better career.

 

[franklin]

Addictionary easily. Has anyone mentioned how much of an underrated defender Shaq was? He has a better career DRTG than any single season of AD, who's considered pretty damn good as well. That big man combo would crush White's team on both ends of the floor. Westbrook, Harden, and Wall would tear Stockton and Pierce apart.

 

[fishonjazz]

Barkley had a much lower usage rate (26.9% vs. 32.6% for AD) and was more efficient. He shot 52% on 18 shots a game vs. 50% on 20 shots a game for AD.

Age has nothing to do with this. We aren't projecting whether someone is going to have a better career.

Yep those stats you posted are also pretty close. So they are pretty even statically overall I guess.
I like the guy with better size, length, and defense. But to each their own.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yep those stats you posted are also pretty close. So they are pretty even statically overall I guess.
I like the guy with better size, length, and defense. But to each their own.

Barkley led a team to the NBA Finals.

Davis has been to the playoffs once in his career.

Barkley had a higher DBPM (2.4 vs. 2.3) than Davis as well. He wasn't as bad as a defender as you think.

 

[fishonjazz]

Barkley led a team to the NBA Finals.

Davis has been to the playoffs once in his career.

Barkley had a higher DBPM (2.4 vs. 2.3) than Davis as well. He wasn't as bad as a defender as you think.

Ok

 

[Ron Mexico]

Barkley had a much lower usage rate (26.9% vs. 32.6% for AD) and was more efficient. He shot 52% on 18 shots a game vs. 50% on 20 shots a game for AD.

Age has nothing to do with this. We aren't projecting whether someone is going to have a better career.

Barkleys shots were mostly inside shots. The brows we're from all over the court including three. The fact that they are within 2% shooting shows just how good the brow is. That stat is in his favor. Davis does almost everything better than Barkley except passing.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Barkleys shots were mostly inside shots. The brows we're from all over the court including three. The fact that they are within 2% shooting shows just how good the brow is. That stat is in his favor. Davis does almost everything better than Barkley except passing.

You do realize that Barkley shot 30.5% from 3 on 2.9 attempts and Davis shot 29.9% from 3 on 1.8 attempts right?

Do you guys even do any research or just speak off what sounds good for your argument?

 

[gandalfe]

Stockton >>> Westbrook
Pierce >> Harden
Pippen >>>>>>>>> Mashburn
Barkley >>> AD
Mourning <<<<< Shaq

WC for me and it's not even close. That Shaq/AD combo is potent. . . but WC built a better team. And on top of that, Mashburn is the worst starter in the whole competition. Has no business at all being in a starting lineup. I'd rather have Carmelo Anthony in my starting lineup. . . and he's on WC's bench.

Hell, I'd rather have Iguodala starting than Mashburn. And he is ALSO on WC's bench. Mashburn is definitely the weak link, but generally, I just think WC has a more complete team. Westbrook and Harden will probably be remembered as all time greats, but NOT YET. OK, Westbrook definitely will be, maybe not Harden.

 

[addictionary]

Addictionary easily. Has anyone mentioned how much of an underrated defender Shaq was? He has a better career DRTG than any single season of AD, who's considered pretty damn good as well. That big man combo would crush White's team on both ends of the floor. Westbrook, Harden, and Wall would tear Stockton and Pierce apart.

My man.