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spycam1 said:
Kidd was the right pick.

Dwight wasn't. There are other bigs available better than him.

I bet you could have picked one of them and picked Dwight as your 6th man with your next pick, if you really wanted him.
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With Duncan already in place to do inside scoring, I really needed someone who could just be that athletic guy that can just occupy the paint, block shots and gather defensive rebounds. Dwight had a great run with x3 times Defensive Player of the Year (show me another big man still left on the board with that accolade). He wasnt just good at blocking shots, but he was a great defensive rebounder of the ball as well. (x5 times NBA Rebounding Champ).


It's a pity he had limited supporting cast in ORL, if there was another guy who could take off some of the scoring pressures he would have had much more success IMO.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Let's take a look at pick 43...

Career stats: 27.4 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 4.3 APG
Accolades: 11x NBA All-Star, 10x All-NBA First Team, NBA Rookie of the Year
Slam magazine's 11th greatest player of all-time in 2009

Sounds insanely impressive right? That's because it is. This guy should not have slipped this far and was Julius Erving before Julius Erving. Who could this versatile, superbly athletic, well-rounded, elite basketball player be?

Ladies and gentleman...

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With the fifth selection of the fourth round, and #43 overall, QuinSnydersHair selects...


ELGIN BAYLOR!!!!!!!

"Official" position: Small Forward
Other position(s) played: Shooting Guard, Power Forward

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Read these quotes about him.


***"He was one of the most spectacular shooters the game has ever known", Baylor's longtime teammate Jerry West told HOOP in 1992. "I hear people talking about forwards today and I haven't seen many that can compare with him."

***Bill Sharman played against Baylor and coached him in his final years with the Lakers. "I say without reservation that Elgin Baylor is the greatest cornerman who ever played pro basketball", he told the Los Angeles Times at Baylor's retirement in 1971.

***Tommy Hawkins, Baylor's teammate for six seasons and opponent for four (and later a basketball broadcaster) declared to the San Francisco Examiner that "[P]ound for pound, no one was ever as great as Elgin Baylor." He also said, "Elgin certainly didn't jump as high as Michael Jordan. But he had the greatest variety of shots of anyone. He would take it in and hang and shoot from all these angles. Put spin on the ball. Elgin had incredible strength. He could post up Bill Russell. He could pass like Magic and dribble with the best guards in the league."



A look at Elgin Baylor's career stats would indicate that this was a player who spent much of his time in the paint, doing the dirty work against other teams' unathletic grunts. However, at 6'5", Baylor was no power forward; the Lakers' athletic small forward simply played like one, dominating at the rim while simultaneously excelling on the perimeter. Baylor not only averaged double-digit rebounds 11 times, but he also finished in the top five in scoring eight times during his 14-year career. If there was a player from the 1960s who would undoubtedly still be a star in today's NBA, it just might be Baylor. He was the first of his kind and the blueprint for guys like Dr. J and Kobe Bryant.
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Awesome pick. Another player that could play great today. One of my top listers. He was very close to get picked if I didn't want a pg.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
With Duncan already in place to do inside scoring, I really needed someone who could just be that athletic guy that can just occupy the paint, block shots and gather defensive rebounds. Dwight had a great run with x3 times Defensive Player of the Year (show me another big man still left on the board with that accolade). He wasnt just good at blocking shots, but he was a great defensive rebounder of the ball as well. (x5 times NBA Rebounding Champ).


It's a pity he had limited supporting cast in ORL, if there was another guy who could take off some of the scoring pressures he would have had much more success IMO.
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LOL! What? Come on bro, in 2009 the year they made the Finals they had three all-stars (Howard, Lewis, Nelson). Lewis and Turkoglu took a lot of pressure off of Howard, that's why they were so good. They had Courtney Lee when he was a young great defender and shooter. If anything Howard could have worked on his offensive game which was limited to begin with. That team was awesome, I really thought they were going to win it all.
 
My dad lives in Orlando. I've spent a lot of time there. If I have a second team, it's the Magic.

Any Magic fan will tell you Turkoglu was the leader of that team and Lewis was their most potent scorer.

That's not to say either of them were necessarily better than Dwight, but to say he didn't have a supporting cast is just silly.
 
spycam1 said:
My dad lives in Orlando. I've spent a lot of time there. If I have a second team, it's the Magic.

Any Magic fan will tell you Turkoglu was the leader of that team and Lewis was their most potent scorer.

That's not to say either of them were necessarily better than Dwight, but to say he didn't have a supporting cast is just silly.
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Yeah Dwight didnt have enough talent there in ORL thats for sure.


He isnt a leader you are right but as i said in my write up we already have Duncan, Pippen and Kidd on our team. There is enough leadership there to keep Howard in line. Kinda like how the big three in Boston kept Rondo in line.


We'll only need him to block shots and gather rebounds. Thats it.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Yeah Dwight didnt have enough talent there in ORL thats for sure.


He isnt a leader you are right but as i said in my write up we already have Duncan, Pippen and Kidd on our team. There is enough leadership there to keep Howard in line. Kinda like how the big three in Boston kept Rondo in line.


We'll only need him to block shots and gather rebounds. Thats it.
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Dwight had two all-stars around him.
 
Round One
1. JoelHodge, Jr. -- Michael Jordan
2. Ellis269 -- Magic Johnson
3. Thee Jazz Fan -- Hakeem Olajuwon
4. jazzyapma -- Kareem Abdul-Jabaar
5. addictionary via heyhey -- Lebron James
6. HottKnickkkkkk -- Tim Duncan
7. QuinSnydersHair -- Wilt Chamberlain
8. heyhey -- Bill Russell
9. spycam1 - Shaquille O'Neal
10. hey hey -- Larry Bird
11. JoelHodgeJr -- Oscar Robertson
12. Jeffrey - Jerry West
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Round Two
13. Jeffrey -- Kobe Bryant
14. Thee Jazz Fan -- Kevin Durant
15. White Chocolate -- Karl Malone
16. White Chocolate -- John Stockton
17. jazzyapma -- Kevin Garnett
18. Hack - David Robinson
19. HottKnickkkk -- Scottie Pippen
20. addictionary -- Julius Erving
21. Hack -- Charles Barkley
22. Hack -- Dwayne Wade
23. Ellis269 -- Patrick Ewing
24. spycam1 -- Dirk Nowitzki
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Round Three
25. White Chocolate -- Clyde Drexler
26. Ellis269 -- Dominique Wilkins
27. Jeffrey -- Bob Pettitt
28. spycam1 -- Isaiah Thomas
29. jazzyapma -- Chris Paul
30. QuinSnydersHair -- Stephen Curry
31. QuinSnydersHair -- Ray Allen
32. HottKnickkkkk -- Reggie Miller
33. spycam1 -- Paul Pierce
34. addictionary -- Bob Cousy
35. Ellis 269 via White Chocolate -- Moses Malone
36. Thee Jazz Fan -- Steve Nash
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Round Four
37. White Chocolate - Dikembe Mutombo
38. Hack - Gary Payton
39. White Chocolate -- Chris Mullin
40. spycam1 -- James Worthy
41. QuinSnydersHair -- Russell Westbrook
42. Hack -- Vince Carter
43. QuinSnydersHair -- Elgin Baylor
44. heyhey -- Allen Iverson
45. QuinSnydersHair -- Bill Walton
46. HottKnickkkkk -- Jason Kidd
47. jazzyapma -- John Havlicek
48. HottKnickkkkk -- Dwight Howard
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Round Five
49. heyhey -- Chris Webber
50. jazzyapma -- Grant Hill
51. Thee Jazz Fan
52. heyhey
53. addictionary
54. Jeffrey
55. JoelHodge, Jr.
56. addictionary
57. spycam1
58. Ellis269
59. Hack
60. Jeffrey

Thee jazz fan is on the clock, heyhey is on deck, and addictionary is in the hole.
 
heyhey said:
Kidd > AI though

really wish I hadn't rushed that pick. I didn't notice Kidd was still on the board tbh. Was shocked when kink took him.

Oh well you can do much worse than AI at 44.
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AI at 44 is a great pick itself.
 
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