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An explanation of why, mathematically, this has been the most frustration Jazz season of all time.

Has Favors ever closed out a game for us by beasting? Has Rudy? This season? We need closers offensively and defensively. Hayward is a closer but he can't do it alone.
 
NAOS said:
A very vocal jazzfanzer tried to bury me for saying we need a Bulldog out on the perimeter. In other words, for saying we need a lockdown defensive guru who could disrupt offenses in late-game situations. I think the case is pretty well closed: we don't have a perimeter guy who can check the most talented perimeter playmakers/scorers when we get into to grind-it-out situations.

Exum may eventually become that guy. He obviously can defend any "guard". But he could even defend "wings" if he added more strength.

But we can't wait on Exum. We need a Bulldog now, just like we needed one last October.

It's obviously time for Lindsey to get busy.
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Hayward has been a very very good wing defender all year. And you don't think Exum will have added strength in all this time off ? He'll make an enormous difference, and i hope Hood improves defensively as well. Burks i have doubts he'll ever be a good defender
 
Red Jazz Fan said:
Bazemore is his new flavor of the week(offseason).
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I'm not trying to be a dick here, but until a couple of months ago when you started sniping at me, I had no idea who you were or anything you've added to a single discussion. I'm shocked you've been around since the board re-booted. Funny to see you bust out your weak history of my ideas, though.
 
And, for the record, I supported signing Bazemore back before he went to ATL. So, yeah, I've been really inconsistent on that one.
 
NAOS said:
A very vocal jazzfanzer tried to bury me for saying we need a Bulldog out on the perimeter. In other words, for saying we need a lockdown defensive guru who could disrupt offenses in late-game situations. I think the case is pretty well closed: we don't have a perimeter guy who can check the most talented perimeter playmakers/scorers when we get into to grind-it-out situations.

Exum may eventually become that guy. He obviously can defend any "guard". But he could even defend "wings" if he added more strength.

But we can't wait on Exum. We need a Bulldog now, just like we needed one last October.

It's obviously time for Lindsey to get busy.
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- You wanted to send max-contracts to wing players, bring Hood off the bench, and play Alec at pg for 20mpg. Did the triple wing lineup work well? I'd love to know the record of this team this season for every game that Alec hit the 20 minute mark. Most of us were fine with him playing there for up to 10 minutes a game, but any more would negate his effectiveness in that lineup in stints.
- I'd also love to see the list of players that we mentioned for max contracts (Harris, Carroll, Middleton, Green, who else am I missing?) who had better seasons than Rodney Hood. By my count, just Kris. Bazemore wasn't a FA last offseason so he never entered the conversations at large. The crux of the cake-baking argument was wanting to evaluate the talent that we had & forsaking one more season towards development before we go all in for 2016-2017. Isn't it nice that we now know that we don't need to offer a ridiculous contract to a stretch 4 given Lyles' production? Isn't it nice knowing we don't need another backup 7footer for Rudy now that we saw Withey play in stints? We managed to figure out that Burke provides nothing to this team. Neto has spurts. We got an okay backup in Mack at the deadline. Hood has shown starting level production. Burks continues to be a question mark given his injury.
- Statistically, Locke said the Jazz guard SFs better than any other team in the league. How will a 'bulldog' help us in this regard? Hayward is really, really ****ing good. Let's use our finances on shooting, PGs, and spacing (if Exum isn't enough). Our only 'knockdown' shooter is Joe Trebuchet Ingles. Offense is a much, much bigger problem than defense with this team.


And yes-- Dennis has now had a year to evaluate his talent with emerged roles. Dennis needs to drop cash and bolster this team-- Hayward will jettison otherwise.
 
DownUnder said:
Hayward has been a very very good wing defender all year. And you don't think Exum will have added strength in all this time off ? He'll make an enormous difference, and i hope Hood improves defensively as well. Burks i have doubts he'll ever be a good defender
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****ing bizarre that we're worried about defense when we look at our stats and we're then reminded of the amount of games that 3 VERY good defenders (Dante, Favors, Gobert) missed. I'm more worried about that annoyingly receptive handoff action on offense where Rudy nearly turns over the ball like 70% of the time.
 
dalamon said:
- You wanted to send max-contracts to wing players, bring Hood off the bench, and play Alec at pg for 20mpg. Did the triple wing lineup work well? I'd love to know the record of this team this season for every game that Alec hit the 20 minute mark. Most of us were fine with him playing there for up to 10 minutes a game, but any more would negate his effectiveness in that lineup in stints.
- I'd also love to see the list of players that we mentioned for max contracts (Harris, Carroll, Middleton, Green, who else am I missing?) who had better seasons than Rodney Hood. Bazemore wasn't a FA last offseason so he never entered the conversations at large. The crux of the cake-baking argument was wanting to evaluate the talent that we had & forsaking one more season towards development before we go all in for 2016-2017. Isn't it nice that we now know that we don't need to offer a ridiculous contract to a stretch 4 given Lyles' production? Isn't it nice knowing we don't need another backup 7footer for Rudy now that we saw Withey play in stints? We managed to figure out that Burke provides nothing to this team. Neto has spurts. We got an okay backup in Mack at the deadline. Hood has shown starting level production. Burks continues to be a question mark given his injury.
- Statistically, Locke said the Jazz guard SFs better than any other team in the league. How will a 'bulldog' help us in this regard? Hayward is really, really ****ing good. Let's use our finances on shooting, PGs, and spacing (if Exum isn't enough). Our only 'knockdown' shooter is Joe Trebuchet Ingles. Offense is a much, much bigger problem than defense with this team.


And yes-- Dennis has now had a year to evaluate his talent with emerged roles. Dennis needs to drop cash and bolster this team-- Hayward will jettison otherwise.
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I didn't even make it past the first line because of the blatant errors.
 
dalamon said:
- You wanted to send max-contracts to wing players, bring Hood off the bench, and play Alec at pg for 20mpg. Did the triple wing lineup work well? I'd love to know the record of this team this season for every game that Alec hit the 20 minute mark. Most of us were fine with him playing there for up to 10 minutes a game, but any more would negate his effectiveness in that lineup in stints.
- I'd also love to see the list of players that we mentioned for max contracts (Harris, Carroll, Middleton, Green, who else am I missing?) who had better seasons than Rodney Hood. By my count, just Kris. Bazemore wasn't a FA last offseason so he never entered the conversations at large. The crux of the cake-baking argument was wanting to evaluate the talent that we had & forsaking one more season towards development before we go all in for 2016-2017. Isn't it nice that we now know that we don't need to offer a ridiculous contract to a stretch 4 given Lyles' production? Isn't it nice knowing we don't need another backup 7footer for Rudy now that we saw Withey play in stints? We managed to figure out that Burke provides nothing to this team. Neto has spurts. We got an okay backup in Mack at the deadline. Hood has shown starting level production. Burks continues to be a question mark given his injury.
- Statistically, Locke said the Jazz guard SFs better than any other team in the league. How will a 'bulldog' help us in this regard? Hayward is really, really ****ing good. Let's use our finances on shooting, PGs, and spacing (if Exum isn't enough). Our only 'knockdown' shooter is Joe Trebuchet Ingles. Offense is a much, much bigger problem than defense with this team.


And yes-- Dennis has now had a year to evaluate his talent with emerged roles. Dennis needs to drop cash and bolster this team-- Hayward will jettison otherwise.
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lol. I just finished. lmao.
 
NAOS said:
Here's a quick sketch of how the minutes might be distributed, on average.

Exum (25) / Burks (20)
Carroll (30) / Burks (10) / Hood (8)
Hayward (30) / Hood (18)
Favors (25) / Booker (20) / Lyles (3, and increasing)
Gobert (32) / Favors (7) / Pleiss (9)
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dalamon said:
****ing bizarre that we're worried about defense when we look at our stats and we're then reminded of the amount of games that 3 VERY good defenders (Dante, Favors, Gobert) missed. I'm more worried about that annoyingly receptive handoff action on offense where Rudy nearly turns over the ball like 70% of the time.
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Solid post
 
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