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Another Game AGAIN Jazz @ Pimpslaps NEW HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time: who cares let it be over

1-8, 12-20, and 1-8. trey's shooting is so damn inconsistent.

still hate the fact he only played 20 min. he is young. stop babying him. give him at least 30 min.
 
Kanter with 13 points (on 5-11 shooting) and 13 rebounds.
Hayward 4-14 and played terrible.

Who is the problem? Kanter gets ripped regardless of what he does or how he plays and other players just get pass after pass. I don't love Kanter or hate Hayward. I hate the double standard.
 
oldtimer said:
Kanter with 13 points (on 5-11 shooting) and 13 rebounds.
Hayward 4-14 and played terrible.

Who is the problem? Kanter gets ripped regardless of what he does or how he plays and other players just get pass after pass. I don't love Kanter or hate Hayward. I hate the double standard.
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You are the MAN and not a DUCK. I give you credit for that oldtimer.
 
oldtimer said:
Kanter with 13 points (on 5-11 shooting) and 13 rebounds.
Hayward 4-14 and played terrible.

Who is the problem? Kanter gets ripped regardless of what he does or how he plays and other players just get pass after pass. I don't love Kanter or hate Hayward. I hate the double standard.
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Kanter is the scapegoat not only for Corbin but it seems for some Jazz fans too.
 
Anyone notice that Enes is passing up some most of those wide open 15 ft. shots that he was bangin' down. Seems to me he thinks about them and then decides to not take the shot. Got Corbin's fingerprints all over this.
 
oldtimer said:
Kanter with 13 points (on 5-11 shooting) and 13 rebounds.
Hayward 4-14 and played terrible.

Who is the problem? Kanter gets ripped regardless of what he does or how he plays and other players just get pass after pass. I don't love Kanter or hate Hayward. I hate the double standard.
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When Hayward has a bad shooting night, he has double digit assists (see 1-200 game he had earlier in the season). When Kanter has a bad shooting night, he contributes absolutely nothing else.

https://www.82games.com/1314/13UTA14.HTM#onoff

When Kanter is on the floor, the Jazz are outscored by 20 points per 100 possessions. When he's off the court, the Jazz OUTSCORE their opponents. Based solely on that, he deserves zero time. There are other factors that determine he should play, and he does get solid minutes. I think his minutes currently are fine.

Look at Hayward:

https://www.82games.com/1314/13UTA8.HTM#onoff

Offense is no different if he's playing or not. Defense is five points better when he's on the court.

That's why he has a "pass," as you guys call it.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
When Kanter is on the floor, the Jazz are outscored by 20 points per 100 possessions. When he's off the court, the Jazz OUTSCORE their opponents. Based solely on that, he deserves zero time. There are other factors that determine he should play, and he does get solid minutes. I think his minutes currently are fine.
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****. Really? I had no idea. I really like Kanter. Could it be the lineup he is being used with in the game that maybe has affected this on/off stat?
 
VINYLONE said:
****. Really? I had no idea. I really like Kanter. Could it be the lineup he is being used with in the game that maybe has affected this on/off stat?
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And kanter got a lot of minutes early in the yeat before evans burke and williams were healthy.... now when everyone is healthy his minutes arw down so the stat is flawed
 
fishonjazz said:
And kanter got a lot of minutes early in the yeat before evans burke and williams were healthy.... now when everyone is healthy his minutes arw down so the stat is flawed
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Its just "The BIG-AL FLU" on Jazzfans. Everytime other players are not productive enough, than they are searching for some scapegoat, to be the reason of all devil on the Team. AL was always the scapegoat for other players lack of acitivity on the court. Last year Enes Kanter was one of the best and BIG-AL was on of the worst of the +- stat. AL was our best Player, so I do not think that this stat count that much.
 
The tank lovers should have loved tonight.

I didn't. I don't mind seeing the Jazz lose and don't mind the tank in general, but watching play like this is disgusting.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
When Hayward has a bad shooting night, he has double digit assists (see 1-200 game he had earlier in the season). When Kanter has a bad shooting night, he contributes absolutely nothing else.

https://www.82games.com/1314/13UTA14.HTM#onoff

When Kanter is on the floor, the Jazz are outscored by 20 points per 100 possessions. When he's off the court, the Jazz OUTSCORE their opponents. Based solely on that, he deserves zero time. There are other factors that determine he should play, and he does get solid minutes. I think his minutes currently are fine.

Look at Hayward:

https://www.82games.com/1314/13UTA8.HTM#onoff

Offense is no different if he's playing or not. Defense is five points better when he's on the court.

That's why he has a "pass," as you guys call it.
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You picked the wrong game for these arguments. Favors: -25 Hayward: -23 Kanter: -8 and Hayward had only 3 assists. But go ahead and keep hating on Kanter.
 
Nate505 said:
The tank lovers should have loved tonight.

I didn't. I don't mind seeing the Jazz lose and don't mind the tank in general, but watching play like this is disgusting.
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Ya I didn't like the way they lost either........ if we end up with wiggins or jabari due to losses like last night then I will get over it...... You will too :)
 
fishonjazz said:
And kanter got a lot of minutes early in the yeat before evans burke and williams were healthy.... now when everyone is healthy his minutes arw down so the stat is flawed
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The team is even worse (from a +/- standpoint) when Kanter and Burke are on the court at the same time.
 
Ellipse said:
You picked the wrong game for these arguments. Favors: -25 Hayward: -23 Kanter: -8 and Hayward had only 3 assists. But go ahead and keep hating on Kanter.
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Uh...do you think 1 game is a better indicator than 28 games? Hayward knows how to play basketball, executes well pretty consistently on offense and defense, but is not producing because he's been asked to fill a role he's not fit to fill. Kanter has some skills, but has no clue how to play basketball.
 
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