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#anotherbabebook
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What happened to the longest thread thread?
It's still there somewhere.
Nobody here really is interested.
You have Gary Allen confused with Alan Stang, an even nuttier Bircher nutcase. In addition to MLK, Stang accused Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Obama, Truman, Eisenhower, and even Abraham Lincoln, all as communists. Absurd as it sounds, Lincoln was a communist, according to Stang, and the Civil War a communist plot to destroy the country.
As Stang proved, we can call our presidents anything we want; communist, Marxist, rapist, murderer, no matter how crazy and unfounded the label.
Incidentally, on a side note, when Stang called a private citizen a communist he and the John Birch Society were successfully sued for defamation in Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc. The ruling was upheld by the Supreme Court in a landmark case that set different libel standards for public figures and private citizens.
saying a person is a communist should be no different under the law from saying a person is Christian.
We can all have opinions about others, that is something that should be protected free speech. We can debate whether so and so is really a Christian until the cows come home, Jesus isn't here to verify the facts and no one needs to consider it an offense. I don't know who could possibly claim to be the final authority on who is a communist and who isn't. The word can refer to people who adhere to any of many issues espoused by all kinds of various alleged communist groups, and means only that a person has an opinion of some similarity or another.
I don't get upset when Frank calls me a commie. I might dream about a better world just like John Lennon did. Or I might make some critical distinctions and separate myself from the silliness of the song "Imagine". I don't think a world with no religion will be any nicer than the world has ever been. I might dream of a stateless utopia like the America that was before the Europeans came with the idea of property surveys and recorders offices registering ownership, or whatever. For sure I doubt the wisdom of state or federal ownership of the land as a pretext for managing human beings and forcing them into metropolitan areas where they are dependent of government-controlled rations in any real or contrived "emergency".
Hillary is a communist because of her rhetorical offerings, but she is simply a crook at heart. Trump is not a communist by his rhetorical offerings, but a pretty clear capitalist with a constitutional idea of tariffs to protect American jobs from the despoliations of foreign corporate operations subsidized with foreign government incentives, favors, and protections. The original idea of the national government being funded by tariffs was directed at the British corporation called then "The British East India Trading Company". That corporation was responsible for the establishment of slavery in America, and for inciting the British government to punish the colonists for competitive enterprises and for the insults upon the colonists' ideas of their rights under the British Magna Carta.
Hillary is in the pocket of the international corporatists I correctly identify as fascists. And she is associated with the continuing interests pf foreign corporate sponsors of human trafficking and slavery, and she doesn't care about human rights at all. Her degenerate hubby is an allegedly predatory sexual offender, and Hillary doesn't care about those children or women he abuses.
The little band of college-indoctrinated, media-cultured, Hollywood propagandized idealistic progressives we have in here probably won't listen to me. Maybe it's "normality bias" or just the natural tendency to avoid challenging facts. Maybe it is vested interest in the way things are, or the peer pressure in their circles. But most kids so indoctrinated and trained will drift away from that view when they're working for a living, sooner or later. It just doesn't get the job done. And a whole lot of Americans at this time are waking up to the problems of the "bad management" that has followed impletmentation of alledgedly progressive management. They are not "white supremacists' generally, just all kinds of people who want an America with equal rights and justice, and good jobs.
In this election cycle, Hillary clearly represents "the way things are", and Trump clearly is claiming to be "change" in the direction of better management, if not Constitutional governance.
For many, it is referendum on CFR agendas for America.
What happened to the longest thread thread?
Look here... https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?50235-Never-Trump