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Ante Tomic?

cctrackstar said:
My opinion? with Favors and Gobert on the team and Tomic demanding starter contract and minutes, his rights will probably be traded to a team in a deal for some value.
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Uhhhhh..... he only plays like 20 mpg in Europe. European players are use to sharing minutes. I don't think minutes are an issue if Kanter isn''t here, assuming Tomic can play.

As far as pay goes, I'm guess he doesn't make that much in Europe, nothing like NBA players can make. Him coming to the NBA will be to prove himself as a basketball player and take the next challenge and possibly put himself in line for a big pay day on his second contract if he plays well.
 
David Pick ‏@IAmDPick Jan 14

Ante Tomic said Barcelona "has a team-option for next season" and that "anything (Re: Europe/NBA) is possible."
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David Pick ‏@IAmDPick Jan 14

Asked Ante Tomic of his NBA aspirations: "I'd like to make the NBA, the window isn't closed."
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I'd love us to get him over to the NBA. I'd prefer us paying him 3x5 than have to match Kanter's 4x12 or something like that...
 
Revolution 9 said:
Tomic can do that one magical thing Kanter refuses to. Pass out of the double team/low post.
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I think he could be effective. Look at what Gasol is doing in Chicago this year, having a career year despite very little athleticism left. Granted Gasol's defense is spotty nowadays but Kanter's is flat out swiss cheese.
 
Cy said:
Uhhhhh..... he only plays like 20 mpg in Europe. European players are use to sharing minutes. I don't think minutes are an issue if Kanter isn''t here, assuming Tomic can play.

As far as pay goes, I'm guess he doesn't make that much in Europe, nothing like NBA players can make. Him coming to the NBA will be to prove himself as a basketball player and take the next challenge and possibly put himself in line for a big pay day on his second contract if he plays well.
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I don't know, but it seems like he has shown no interest in coming over until recently, and it's possible his sudden interest has something to do with the fact he knows Utah is already set at his position. I'm guessing he'd prefer a trade to coming off the bench for Utah. Either way, for everyone who has made up their mind that he's never coming over, or that he's not that good anyway, don't be so sure. If might not be next season, but within two years I believe he'll be playing in the NBA. I think I'd prefer to trade Kanter and keep Tomic as a 3rd big, but even if we have to trade him to get him to come over, he'll be a nice asset to add to the mix as the team starts to take shape. Utah needs a little luck in completing this rebuild, but if anyone is set up for things to really come together nicely, it has to be the Jazz.
 
freakazoid said:
I for everyone who has made up their mind that he's never coming over, or that he's not that good anyway, don't be so sure. If might not be next season, but within two years I believe he'll be playing in the NBA.
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Tomic is going to be 28 next week. I don't think there's much precedence for skilled Euro players to wait until they're 30 to play in the NBA. It's pretty much now or never - or at least very, very soon.

And his supposed interest in the NBA may just be a contract ploy - his team option will certainly be picked up. He may be looking to lock up an extension or new deal before next season.
 
If he did come over would he be on a rookie deal based on where he was picked? or would it be open contract negotiations?

If a rookie deal that could be great. Sign and trade kanter replace with a cheap rookie contract on a guy that's ready to play. It would give us a good deal of muscle(money) in the FA market.
 
heyhey said:
If he did come over would he be on a rookie deal based on where he was picked? or would it be open contract negotiations?

If a rookie deal that could be great. Sign and trade kanter replace with a cheap rookie contract on a guy that's ready to play. It would give us a good deal of muscle(money) in the FA market.
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Open negotiation... Although those guys can generally be had a little cheaper than US players... Mirotic got $5 M per. Tomic would probably get somewhere around $3 M.
 
After 3 years from being drafted, it's no longer based on the rookie contract. They'd have to negotiate a 3 year deal with him, but it's really just Utah and Barcelona competing for his services.

The buyout should be reasonable (since it's an option year), but the Jazz can only contribute a portion to that. Anything else, and the contract has to be large enough to cover the buyout and pay him at market value. He's been making about $3.5 million per year (or so), so the full MLE of $5 million per year (which is what they pay Booker) should be enough of an upgrade to make him consider it. If they have cap space, they could go above that number - if that's what it takes to get him to come over. The main reason that he'd consider coming over is his earning potential. He'll need a real commitment from the Jazz to get him to come over, but the value of his 2nd contract (if he continues to play well) dwarfs his initial Jazz contract, which should be about twice what he's making right now. NBA teams simply pay better for proven talent.

For refrence, Nicola Mirotic just paid $3 million for his buyout, but then got a 3 year $17 million contract from the Bulls. Mirotic is essentially in the same boat that Tomic was, except the Jazz weren't ready to bring him over when they had a chance and he signed a 3 year (plus 1 year team option) contract with Barcelona when he was a little older than Mirotic is now. At 28, this might be his last shot at NBA money if he doesn't come over this year.
 
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