Anxiety

[♪alt13]

Funny because crossword puzzles calm me down and weed makes me dumb to anxious.. but those both have the EXACT opposite effect on my wife.

Mine too

 

[Deleted member 848]

I know this was sincere, well-meaning, thoughtfully stated, and appreciated. Having said that, I am not sure the right "life-balance" is enough. To presume so assumes, at least to some degree, one doesn't have a true issue going on. Take weight for example. Everyone knows you can take two people, same size, same lifestyle, same diet, and they can be dramatically different in weight. Why is that? I believe it's the same for those suffering from anxiety issues.

I recently learned a few years ago that my wife's family (both maternal and paternal) have had debilitating anxiety issues dating back as far as memory. Her older cousin took it upon himself to go on a sort of vision quest to find answers. He found a doctor. This doctor spent 6 months working on this guy's father. The result? At age 65 this dad finally had peace... totally. My wife's cousin told me that when this happened he had a 'dad' for the first time in his life. No more panic attacks, no more anxiety, no more selfishness (unintentional). He then went on to help other family members find the right 'mix' of meds to bring the brain in balance.

This doctor STRESSED that our brains fire and release chemicals at 'normal' rates in about 80% of people. The other 20% misfire and release the incorrect/wrong amount of chemicals and the end result is skewed. I tend to believe this is true. I really do.

When I first married my wife, I was always caring, respectful, and nurturing.. but on the inside, I was thinking, stop the drama.. be an adult.. suck it up. Even though I never once said those things, I now feel badly for having ever even thought them.

That's really interesting. I admittedly don't know too much about human psychology, or psychiatry for that matter-- and I wonder if that older cousin's doctor would trade this 20% rate of misfired NT-release to genetic lineage.

Even if it was, there is such a huge, huge difference between genetic-code, and genetic expression (and this area IS one of my stronger suits).

In other words, two people can have a whole slew of oncogenes (genes that tend to be cancer causing)-- yet one will suffer from cancer, and the other will live to 90 years of age. This control of gene expression is one of those things that we will never understand, but I oft wonder if it has to do with factors of mental physiology like stress, and what not.



What I'm saying, is that your wife can have the genes for having the most ****ed up brain of the world, but there is ways for your body to harness mechanisms to halt -- or even change-- the expression of said genes.










tl;dr

Chances are (pretty good ones, at that) that you are completely right, and it's a matter of finding that right balance of drugs. So, I would definitely suggest constantly being in the pursuit of that. At the same time, the lifestyle changes can be filler, or something to help pass the time in between trying to find that right dosage of drugs; and I truly believe that this lifestyle change could only have positive ramifications.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I've recommended that. She said she doesn't want to spend her life there. lol

All good advice from everyone and very much appreciated. Y'all can be aight at times.

I can imagine. I'd still remind her of the possibility, because a thought-process regarding this chain-of-thought can always have a change-of-heart.



Really appreciate how respective, and receptive you are of my offerings as advice. I definitely hope I'm not coming across as condescending or anything-- just trying to provide an alternative perspective for you.

 

[Dr. Jones]

That's really interesting. I admittedly don't know too much about human psychology, or psychiatry for that matter-- and I wonder if that older cousin's doctor would trade this 20% rate of misfired NT-release to genetic lineage.

Even if it was, there is such a huge, huge difference between genetic-code, and genetic expression (and this area IS one of my stronger suits).

In other words, two people can have a whole slew of oncogenes (genes that tend to be cancer causing)-- yet one will suffer from cancer, and the other will live to 90 years of age. This control of gene expression is one of those things that we will never understand, but I oft wonder if it has to do with factors of mental physiology like stress, and what not.



What I'm saying, is that your wife can have the genes for having the most ****ed up brain of the world, but there is ways for your body to harness mechanisms to halt -- or even change-- the expression of said genes.










tl;dr

Chances are (pretty good ones, at that) that you are completely right, and it's a matter of finding that right balance of drugs. So, I would definitely suggest constantly being in the pursuit of that. At the same time, the lifestyle changes can be filler, or something to help pass the time in between trying to find that right dosage of drugs; and I truly believe that this lifestyle change could only have positive ramifications.

Agree with every word. (and I read it)

 

[Dr. Jones]

I can imagine. I'd still remind her of the possibility, because a thought-process regarding this chain-of-thought can always have a change-of-heart.



Really appreciate how respective, and receptive you are of my offerings as advice. I definitely hope I'm not coming across as condescending or anything-- just trying to provide an alternative perspective for you.

Coming across as nothing but 100% sincere.

 

[One Brow]

That may very well help once we would find at least a temporarily better feel-good solution. She wouldn't be able to handle a job/career daily right now.. maybe once per week. I have tried to make that happen for her because I suspected it may help, but she hasn't wanted to.. or felt she could really do it. Not to mention she (on her own) feels guilty that day care for our 112 kids would cost more than she would likely earn.. she misses the point.

There are part-time with varying hours. My wife sells furniture at a local department store, and mostly works evening and weekends.

 

[One Brow]

I always worry that the right meds won't end up finding a cure-- I'm not using scientific research to justify my claim, but it's just something I've thought about.


I find that drugs tend to mask mental illnesses more than treat them. This 'masking' tends to help some more than others, which is why the results of a given drug tends to be so inconsistent between populations.

I feel like the best treatment is having a structured, moderately-involved, and 'complex' -- yet balanced-- lifestyle with plenty of opportunities for socializing, exercising, and consuming a healthy diet to predispose your body in an optimal condition (both physically and mentally); with meds being a supplement to your condition to get through the 'troughs'


- $0.02 from someone who has never had any debilitating mental-strife himself.

I'd wager part of that is, like any other human behavior, because there probably is no single biological cause to anxiety issues in one person, and often no common causes among different people.

I think socializing would be great for extroverts, but for my wife, socializing is just more pressure and more anxiety.

 

[franklin]

Why can't anxious people live in cabins in the woods like they used to?

 

[fishonjazz]

As far as :420: is concerned, I'm not all that big into it. I can't smoke it(lungs, although seemingly huge, are very sensitive), but I have made brownies. And that does work, but again only for a few hours. If weed works for others, it might be as simple as getting the pill form of it, and taking it like you would an anti-depressant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol

Yes the pill form is a great new method of consumption.

Also I bought my wife a top of the line vaporizor (540 dollars) and her lungs and throat are MUCH better off. Seriously huge difference in health while sacrificing nothing of the effects of the pot. Plus it tastes better and does not create hardly in smell (since there is no smoke)

 

[Harambe]

Why can't anxious people live in cabins in the woods like they used to?

Buy me some land. Build me that Cabin deep in a forest. Modernize it with plumbing, electricity, internet. Clear out some space for a garden.

I'll never leave.

Never.

Yes the pill form is a great new method of consumption.

Also I bought my wife a top of the line vaporizor (540 dollars) and her lungs and throat are MUCH better off. Seriously huge difference in health while sacrificing nothing of the effects of the pot. Plus it tastes better and does not create hardly in smell (since there is no smoke)

I had no idea vaporizing marj was an option. Huh.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Yes the pill form is a great new method of consumption.

Also I bought my wife a top of the line vaporizor (540 dollars) and her lungs and throat are MUCH better off. Seriously huge difference in health while sacrificing nothing of the effects of the pot. Plus it tastes better and does not create hardly in smell (since there is no smoke)

Tell me more

 

[Gameface]

Buy me some land. Build me that Cabin deep in a forest. Modernize it with plumbing, electricity, internet. Clear out some space for a garden.

I'll never leave.

Never.



I had no idea vaporizing marj was an option. Huh.

I fall into what looks like a trend here. MJ is no good for me, causes anxiety, paranoia, stupidity, but doesn't seem to have that effect on my wife. Anyway, I think vaporizers are absolutely the way to go. I know some don't agree, but I think they just haven't used the right vaporizer yet. Many of them suck.