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Anyone know why Burks was a DNP?

vslice02 said:
As a fan on the outside I could argue Burks deserves more minutes - but I have no idea what goes on in practice and how much of a grasp he has on the offense. I liked what I saw from Burks in Denver but playing well in garbage time is still garbage time.
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Garbage time or not. 15 points in 10 minutes is still pretty impressive. Especially from a team that struggling to score and he can't even get 1 minute? I call ********.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Garbage time or not. 15 points in 10 minutes is still pretty impressive. Especially from a team that struggling to score and he can't even get 1 minute? I call ********.
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Entirely different game. Denver put Farried and Koufos on the floor and they stop scoring. To his credit Burks took advantage (had 2 steals - 1 from good defense the other from a poor Denver pass) and got out on the break - but Burks doesn't get out on the break if Utah's taking the ball out of the net every possession. It's easy for fans to overreact - especially when you consider the putrid play of our SG's this season - but CJ looked like our SG of the future against G.S. in the final game of the 2005-06 season.
Burks shot 3-20 in the 3 games prior to Denver. IMO it is more crucial to Burks' development that he learns early in his career he has to work like a dog to earn minutes than be given a pre-determined allotment of gametime to develop. Bell's a veteran but he clearly sucks, so if Burks stays with it and keeps working Corbin will have no choice but to play him.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I think Ty realizes he has to tighten up the rotation for chemistry purposes. No team plays 13 guys a night consistently.
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Well then sit Bell. Bell sucks big time and won't even be on the team in two years. There is really no logical answer except Ty is like Sloan play the vet over the rookie.
 
Ty in an article after the Denver game mentioned that Burks had earned more minutes and then he doesn't play him at all. Makes no sense?
 
InGameStrategy said:
The best time to groom an ultra-young player; missed oppty by Corbin.


Yeah, except for those 2 steals on defense and 6 for 9 on offense--on a very low sample size of a total of 15 minutes, btw. Or, if you were referring to the Laker game alone, 6 minutes is not enough time to really write a player off.

Sarcasm, CT? Trolling? Or are you really serious?
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I was talking about the Lakers game. He managed to make tons of mistakes on the defensive end with missed assignments. Inexcusable and you can't really have a guy out there if he doesn't know when and where to rotate, it only hurts the development on the team. On offense he attempted to take Kobe one on one and put up a shot that nailed the left side of the backboard, didn't even hit the rim. It's a small sample size, but he made numerous mistakes and proved he isn't ready for playing time at this point in his career. He needs to go through a couple of more practices.
 
I just wish Ty would figure out that Bell doesn't deserve minutes either and KOC would trade him for some fry sauce. Most of us had figured out this last year.
 
I tell you one thing. I was a little wary of Burks when The Jazz drafted him; but after watching him run the floor and his natural ability to create offense I find it hard to believe, Fredette, Walker and Thompson were all picked in front of him.

I'm sure this kid will fall on his face 25 times this season and he needs to get a clue as to where he needs to be on defense; but the foundation is clearly there for him to be a special player.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I was talking about the Lakers game. He managed to make tons of mistakes on the defensive end with missed assignments. Inexcusable and you can't really have a guy out there if he doesn't know when and where to rotate, it only hurts the development on the team. On offense he attempted to take Kobe one on one and put up a shot that nailed the left side of the backboard, didn't even hit the rim. It's a small sample size, but he made numerous mistakes and proved he isn't ready for playing time at this point in his career. He needs to go through a couple of more practices.
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You speak as if the rest of the team was doing much better.

And you speak as if a player in his very first game should be doing better.

You fail to justify (probably because it's unjustifiable) why Burks didn't get more burn in garbage time--both in the Laker game and last night. During those abortions of a game, no veteran wing deserved minutes over Burks. Fail on Corbin for not applying that fundamental coaching principle--and something that he hasn't learned yet. When your other guards go 1 for 9 (Hayward), 0 for 3 (Bell), 2 for 7 (Miles), a so-so 6 for 16 (Howard), 2 for 8 (Harris), and 2 for 9 (Watson), there is basis for pulling any one of them earlier than the last two minutes of the game, especially when Burks went 6 for 9 in a game after the Laker game that you weakly claimed to be referring to.

Why you are being an apologist for the head coach tolerating and enabling such miserable shooting (not to mention defense; see Hayward in the NBA highlights at 0:18 in the link below), especially when Burks has now proven to make baskets at a significantly higher rate (albeit in garbage time) than any other guard or wing on the team is beyond me (but is representative of your avatar).

Link to Hayward, CJ/Watson, Jefferson, etc. all vastly failing on defense in the highlights alone. Kanter had a couple of rookie defensive fails, too; hopefully Corbin has enough sense to practice them with him (or have the assistant coaches to so). Repetition, repetition, repetition.
https://www.nba.com/games/20111231/UTASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021100055#nbaGIboxscore
 
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Burks has a PER of 42, is scoring at 50 ppg/48 min., and 5.6 steals/48 min.. He is averaging 6.3 ppg at 6 minutes/game (more than Bell, Watson, and Kanter). This guy can score the ball and gets in the passing lanes. The argument that he shouldn't play because he doesn't have the defense down is absurd since the rest of the team got schooled all game long. It will not get worse with Burks playing 20 minutes/game. He will flop sometimes, but we gain nothing with Bell, CJ, and Earl for that matter taking his minutes.
 
Well, the official line is probably something like "He has to earn minutes" , and people on the Jazz payroll would probably say something about "protecting his confidence".

But the real reason the Jazz aren't playing him is payroll. Haven't you heard of the new Rose Rule? If A player under a rookie contract makes an all-nba team or is the league MVP then the player gets a huge raise. Jazz are just trying to save some money.
 
Burks must be making a lot of mistakes in practice. That is the only conceivable reason he isn't seeing floor time. Maybe Raja is tearing it up in practice and we just don't see it. There has to be a reason for this madness!!!
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I was talking about the Lakers game. He managed to make tons of mistakes on the defensive end with missed assignments. Inexcusable and you can't really have a guy out there if he doesn't know when and where to rotate, it only hurts the development on the team. On offense he attempted to take Kobe one on one and put up a shot that nailed the left side of the backboard, didn't even hit the rim. It's a small sample size, but he made numerous mistakes and proved he isn't ready for playing time at this point in his career. He needs to go through a couple of more practices.
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I agree here.
Any rookie that would try to take on Kobe in their first game in the NBA obviously needs a maturity adjustment.
He did have a lot of points in garbage time in that 15 minutes, but nobody was guarding him either.
The scouting report was doubtful to even have him listed on it.
 
sojodave said:
Burks must be making a lot of mistakes in practice. That is the only conceivable reason he isn't seeing floor time. Maybe Raja is tearing it up in practice and we just don't see it. There has to be a reason for this madness!!!
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Let's hope Raja has been tearing it up in practice.
I'm not like most on this forum, and just hate Bell and Jefferson.
I really wish both of them would play better, and that the team would just start playing better together as a whole without a trade.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsId3goYYE
sojodave said:
Burks must be making a lot of mistakes in practice. That is the only conceivable reason he isn't seeing floor time. Maybe Raja is tearing it up in practice and we just don't see it. There has to be a reason for this madness!!!
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PRACTICE?
 
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