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Are the Jazz exactly where they wan't to be??

Yes the Jazz are right where they want to be for NOW. DL said that they are not going to skip steps. It is not time to start packaging up 2 or 3 young guys to bring in one very good player. That will only lead to challenging for the eighth seed. Most very good FAs are not going to come to Utah now because they see that we are rebuilding.

Once the Jazz get to a contending level and know enough about their young core then it will be the time to chase down a major player or two to add to the roster. Love is not coming to Utah simply because he is tired of losing and not making the playoffs, Bosh has been in the NBA finals four straight years do you think he wants to be part of a rebuild, Deng was awful last season and has had nagging injuries lately besides he isn't that much better than what we have, he isn't a difference maker. You make it sound as though our young guys can't improve. The Jazz have one of the youngest rosters in the league. It is time to be patience and let the new coach change the culture and the style we are going to play.

Whether we have another losing season or not I see an improved Jazz team and I think there is no way the Jazz only win 25 and even 30 games next year. To answer your question, Yes the Jazz are almost where they want to be now. They have to either re-sign Hayward or get his replacement and then I think the roster is pretty much set for training camp.

I agree. Bringing in big a big free agent now (except perhaps LeBron) will not get us where we want to be. If you bring in a big talent now we win a few more games, but that big FA takes minutes from our young guys who need to develop right now. Once they develop, then strike out for your free agent targets.

I think most here will agree it is ok to watch the Jazz lose as long as they do it with a good system with team effort involved, and we can watch our team jell and grow. If we have another disorganized crapfest, I will be bummed.
 
I think the Jazz are in good shape as a young team with talent learning how to play with each other.

Burke/Exum
Exum/Burks
Hayward/Hood
Kanter/Evans
Favors/Gobert

I actually like this line-up more than the Lakers line-up that Hotttnikkk posted. It's younger, more athletic, probably plays better defense and it's much more cost effective. An overpaid Kobe, overpaid Pau and an overpaid Carmello aren't going to win anything. The Jazz can be really good, and they're just one or two moves away from being able to become a top-4 team in the West.

I agree. We may suck. Who knows? But our youth and ceiling is a lot more fun than getting our hopes up at a ring (we would with that Lakers lineup) only to have Nash and Kobe get re-injured, Randle play like a rookie, and reality set in quickly with an 8 seed and first round exit via a sweep at the hands of the Spurs or OKC.
 
Cry much? This is a rebuild, and this is what it looks like. Real fans are fine with being patient. I'd rather the organization continue to build via the draft, develop, and be patient, then throw first tier money at second and third tier free agents, just so we could make first round exits in the playoffs for a couple years until those players leave or retire, so fairweather cry-babies can be appeased. I'm a Jazz lifer. The draft is the only path to the holy grail. Free Agency, beyond our own RFA's is just for adding minor complementary pieces to what we already have. The draft and trades are our salvation.
 
Cry much? This is a rebuild, and this is what it looks like. Real fans are fine with being patient. I'd rather the organization continue to build via the draft, develop, and be patient, then throw first tier money at second and third tier free agents, just so we could make first round exits in the playoffs for a couple years until those players leave or retire, so fairweather cry-babies can be appeased. I'm a Jazz lifer. The draft is the only path to the holy grail. Free Agency, beyond our own RFA's is just for adding minor complementary pieces to what we already have. The draft and trades are our salvation.
Overall, I agree that the Jazz are right on track with their rebuild. Part of the problem is that they were always competitive under Jerry Sloan, so it's hard to watch them struggle so much under Corbin and then realize that they have to tear the team down to the foundation to build it back up again. Many of us understand this, but it's still hard to be patient with the process. I believe in the process. A small market team needs to have a clear plan and then execute that plan to the best of their abilities.

I don't think that Dennis Lindsey had a clear plan when he got here. I think that 2012 was a learning year for him to evaluate the organization from top to bottom. He went for a 1 year reload, and set himself up nicely to either continue that path or start from scratch. I'm glad that he chose the way that he did, because I think that it represents the best possible chance at contending.

Right now, it's Moneyball for the Utah Jazz. Get as close to the salary floor as possible and focus on the young players. The Jazz are fully committed to a Draft and Develop philosophy. They're in Year 2 of a 5 year plan. Last year was the start of things. They committed to the rebuild and let all the veterans walk. There should have been more of an organizational support for tanking, but all things considered - getting Exum at #5 does have the potential to make it all worthwhile IF he develops into the player that many think he can be.

Right now, they have Favors, Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Evans and Hood under guaranteed contracts. They have two decent European Assets that they could bring over without overpaying to buy them out and pay them to come. They have the Bird Rights and right of first refusal for Gordon Hayward, so that if they can swing a deal that puts them close to the Salary Cap, they can match his contract and go over it without hitting the Luxury Tax. They have a new head coach who is very smart and highly regarded for his player developmental skills. And he hired a staff that matches that outlook as well. I'm expecting this to be a year of learning the new system and evaluating the long-term potential for all of this young talent. It's going to be rough at times, but the process is important.

With extended playing time for the young guys AND a better head coach AND a better bench, I don't think there's any way that the Utah Jazz won't make significant improvements in both the quality of play and actual wins. They'll still probably be in the lottery (which should give them yet another quality young player for the bench), but I truly expect them to be more highly regarded league-wide for the progress of individual players and as a team unit. I firmly believe that hey're on their way back up. Will it be enough to contend in the West? Who knows. I like their chances 3 years from now if Exum develops as hoped and if another player breaks out or if they make a move to acquire an All-Star forward.

I think that they're more likely to try to make that move next year, once they've seen how all of the young guys respond to Snyder and who steps up to lead the team moving forward. I firmly believe that this team has a lot of talent that was mismanaged horribly. I think that the front office is being prudent by seeing who fits with their future plans before making any drastic and/or dramatic moves. It's worth struggling for another year to put guys like Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Gobert and Hood out on the court to see exactly what they can and can't do before deciding if they have a place on this team or not.
 
Overall, I agree that the Jazz are right on track with their rebuild. Part of the problem is that they were always competitive under Jerry Sloan, so it's hard to watch them struggle so much under Corbin and then realize that they have to tear the team down to the foundation to build it back up again. Many of us understand this, but it's still hard to be patient with the process. I believe in the process. A small market team needs to have a clear plan and then execute that plan to the best of their abilities.

I don't think that Dennis Lindsey had a clear plan when he got here. I think that 2012 was a learning year for him to evaluate the organization from top to bottom. He went for a 1 year reload, and set himself up nicely to either continue that path or start from scratch. I'm glad that he chose the way that he did, because I think that it represents the best possible chance at contending.

Right now, it's Moneyball for the Utah Jazz. Get as close to the salary floor as possible and focus on the young players. The Jazz are fully committed to a Draft and Develop philosophy. They're in Year 2 of a 5 year plan. Last year was the start of things. They committed to the rebuild and let all the veterans walk. There should have been more of an organizational support for tanking, but all things considered - getting Exum at #5 does have the potential to make it all worthwhile IF he develops into the player that many think he can be.

Right now, they have Favors, Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Evans and Hood under guaranteed contracts. They have two decent European Assets that they could bring over without overpaying to buy them out and pay them to come. They have the Bird Rights and right of first refusal for Gordon Hayward, so that if they can swing a deal that puts them close to the Salary Cap, they can match his contract and go over it without hitting the Luxury Tax. They have a new head coach who is very smart and highly regarded for his player developmental skills. And he hired a staff that matches that outlook as well. I'm expecting this to be a year of learning the new system and evaluating the long-term potential for all of this young talent. It's going to be rough at times, but the process is important.

With extended playing time for the young guys AND a better head coach AND a better bench, I don't think there's any way that the Utah Jazz won't make significant improvements in both the quality of play and actual wins. They'll still probably be in the lottery (which should give them yet another quality young player for the bench), but I truly expect them to be more highly regarded league-wide for the progress of individual players and as a team unit. I firmly believe that hey're on their way back up. Will it be enough to contend in the West? Who knows. I like their chances 3 years from now if Exum develops as hoped and if another player breaks out or if they make a move to acquire an All-Star forward.

I think that they're more likely to try to make that move next year, once they've seen how all of the young guys respond to Snyder and who steps up to lead the team moving forward. I firmly believe that this team has a lot of talent that was mismanaged horribly. I think that the front office is being prudent by seeing who fits with their future plans before making any drastic and/or dramatic moves. It's worth struggling for another year to put guys like Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Gobert and Hood out on the court to see exactly what they can and can't do before deciding if they have a place on this team or not.
Good post
 
As the reigning 4th-worst team in the NBA fighting to keep an average athlete with short arms, a very streaky jump shot, and a bad attitude for anything less than the maximum allowed? Yeah the Jazz are exactly where they want to be right now.
 
Oh yeah, they're pinning their hopes on a kid that hasn't played much and the Magic passed on in favor of a hopeful super-role player. And they are based in a free agency dead zone.

The Jazz are exactly where they want to be.
 
Oh yeah, they're pinning their hopes on a kid that hasn't played much and the Magic passed on in favor of a hopeful super-role player. And they are based in a free agency dead zone.

The Jazz are exactly where they want to be.
I wouldn't pin all my negativity off of who any other team does or doesn't pick in the draft. It's such a crapshoot to get the right guy that you can't worry about what other teams do. The Jazz did their scouting, have a better idea than most of what he's capable of and picked the highest player on their board. That's all you can hope for out of your front office.
 
As the reigning 4th-worst team in the NBA fighting to keep an average athlete with short arms, a very streaky jump shot, and a bad attitude for anything less than the maximum allowed? Yeah the Jazz are exactly where they want to be right now.
A. Many people expect some team to offer him an outstanding contract once free agency begins in earnest.
B. He's more highly regarded by league professionals than he is by Jazz fans.
C. Two teams with pretty smart guys leading them (Stevens and Hornacek) are expected to make a major push to sign him.
D. I'm pretty sure that the Jazz are going to match whatever contract offer he gets and see how he fits in with Snyder's system and rotation. It's nice to have leverage and options on your side when making multi-million dollar decisions.
 
Burks has been a 6th man thusfar. Wait til you see what Exum can do. Burks is becoming a solid scorer, but he's not as versatile as Exum is going to be.

Exum will be 19, never having played against grown men. He won't start. Burks actually has very little to do with it. Exum simply isn't ready to start in the NBA. That's no knock on him, rather it's just an issue of age and experience.

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I don't think that Dennis Lindsey had a clear plan when he got here. I think that 2012 was a learning year for him to evaluate the organization from top to bottom. He went for a 1 year reload, and set himself up nicely to either continue that path or start from scratch. I'm glad that he chose the way that he did, because I think that it represents the best possible chance at contending.
Good post, but I differ from you on the DL observation. KOC was still in charge in 2012 and the Jazz had contracts on the books (and a coach with a contract). I think the rebuild was actually started with the DWill trade - and the Jazz FO has stated that. Not skipping steps means you don't make foolish trades and unload one veteran for another with a longer contract. It took a few years to unwind all the contracts.

I think the only question the Jazz had was whether or not to keep Mo, Millsap and Carroll. Mo was much beloved by KOC and the original intent was to welcome him back and keep him for a long, long time. But his play was underwhelming. Millsap was a tough, tough decision and, if you believe reports, it caused much debate and divide in the FO. Had the 2014 draft not been expected to be so good and so deep, I think Millsap (and Carroll) would have been re-signed. But, even if Lindsey couldn't have predicted a bottom-5 finish, I think he certainly saw the possibility of getting all-star level talent at a rookie scale contract in the top-10. On the other hand, Millsap was going to be expensive and he'll be on the other side of 30 if/when the Jazz are even ready to start challenging again in the WC.

I agree Jazz will likely be a lottery team again. Best case would be to have a Phoenix-type year where the Jazz are competitive, exciting, but still need a little more development, experience and a player or two to get back into 50-win territory. I'm as excited to watch this group as I was right after the DWill draft.
 
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