Are the Jazz exactly where they wan't to be??

[seattlejazzfan]

pls stop.

Am I wrong?

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[framer]

As the reigning 4th-worst team in the NBA fighting to keep an average athlete with short arms, a very streaky jump shot, and a bad attitude for anything less than the maximum allowed? Yeah the Jazz are exactly where they want to be right now.

You know it's awful rich for people who whined incessantly about the Jazz not tanking seriously enough to turn around the next season and whine about them being the "4th worst team" in all of basketball. The only way the Jazz pay Hayward the max is if someone else is willing to do that as well. Econ 101, something is worth what somebody else is willing to pay.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Exum will be 19, never having played against grown men. He won't start. Burks actually has very little to do with it. Exum simply isn't ready to start in the NBA. That's no knock on him, rather it's just an issue of age and experience.

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Year of discovery. I'm fine with him coming off the bench, but I think they should give him every opportunity to work his way into the starting lineup. Unless you think that it would wreck his confidence (which I don't think it will do) there's no reason to hold him back unless Trey is just clearly out-playing him. He might be 19, but he should get some serious minutes this year.

 

[bjunior]

if exum will be ready, he should replace burke, not burkes

 

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Am I wrong?

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Has Wiggins played against men? What about an 18-year old LeBron? **** it, what about any college player? What's your point again?

 

[Stifle Tower]

Exum will be 19, never having played against grown men. He won't start. Burks actually has very little to do with it. Exum simply isn't ready to start in the NBA. That's no knock on him, rather it's just an issue of age and experience.

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Agree.
The kid is raw. He doesn't even have 1 year of college experience. In the post-draft interviews, I think Lindsey even said Exum would back up the 1 and 2. I think we'll have to put up with 1-2 years of some complaining the Jazz made a huge mistake and should have taken Randle, Smart, etc.

 

[Coach Ellis]

You know it's awful rich for people who whined incessantly about the Jazz not tanking seriously enough to turn around the next season and whine about them being the "4th worst team" in all of basketball. The only way the Jazz pay Hayward the max is if someone else is willing to do that as well. Econ 101, something is worth what somebody else is willing to pay.

Great post. Plus, I seriously doubt that the Jazz will be anywhere close to 4th worst this year.
Returning players Favors, Kanter, Hayward (probably), Burks, Burke, Gobert and Evans are mostly still young and developing. Better coaching, more consistent lineups and minute distribution and a clearly defined role shoul help all of them improve over last year's output. Bench will be better too. Not accounting for any free agents or traded players, replacing Biedrins, Williams, Jefferson, Rush, JLIII and Garrett with Novak, Hood, Exum and hopefully Tomic and Neto sure looks like an upgrade to me.

Oh, and last but not least, replacing Ty Corbin with Quin Snyder should pay huge dividends even this year. I love his intelligence, his background and his reputation to develop young players. This roster is set up perfectly for a guy like Snyder. Difficult decisions will have to be made. . . but probably not this offseason.

 

[JAZZGASM]

This team is full of young players with a lot of room for growth. If Snyder can implement a strong defensive philosophy, we will see amazing improvement right there (can't get any worse as the Jazz were ranked last in defense).

Hopefully this will be a year of sea change on both ends of the floor. If we can get everyone motivated, we have a good group of players that can compete well in this league. Of all the acquisitions this year, my biggest question mark is Snyder. The Jazz will succeed or fail based on what he brings to the table. He has experience as an assistant, coach in the DL, and as a college coach. He is good with player development. Can he forge these players to be a team, and to play with confidence? If so, I think the Jazz have a bright future with the most of the pieces they already have.

I'm cautiously optimistic that this is going to be a really fun year to watch Jazz basketball. Which is good, because I didn't have one Jazzgasm last season.

 

[silesian]

Meanwhile this could be the Lakers' lineup this coming season...


Nash
Kobe
Carmelo
Randle
Gasol


Merry Christmas Lakers_Slapper.

Odds of this happening are less than 0.1%

feliz navidad

 

[cowhide]

Overall, I agree that the Jazz are right on track with their rebuild. Part of the problem is that they were always competitive under Jerry Sloan, so it's hard to watch them struggle so much under Corbin and then realize that they have to tear the team down to the foundation to build it back up again. Many of us understand this, but it's still hard to be patient with the process. I believe in the process. A small market team needs to have a clear plan and then execute that plan to the best of their abilities.

I don't think that Dennis Lindsey had a clear plan when he got here. I think that 2012 was a learning year for him to evaluate the organization from top to bottom. He went for a 1 year reload, and set himself up nicely to either continue that path or start from scratch. I'm glad that he chose the way that he did, because I think that it represents the best possible chance at contending.

Right now, it's Moneyball for the Utah Jazz. Get as close to the salary floor as possible and focus on the young players. The Jazz are fully committed to a Draft and Develop philosophy. They're in Year 2 of a 5 year plan. Last year was the start of things. They committed to the rebuild and let all the veterans walk. There should have been more of an organizational support for tanking, but all things considered - getting Exum at #5 does have the potential to make it all worthwhile IF he develops into the player that many think he can be.

Right now, they have Favors, Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Evans and Hood under guaranteed contracts. They have two decent European Assets that they could bring over without overpaying to buy them out and pay them to come. They have the Bird Rights and right of first refusal for Gordon Hayward, so that if they can swing a deal that puts them close to the Salary Cap, they can match his contract and go over it without hitting the Luxury Tax. They have a new head coach who is very smart and highly regarded for his player developmental skills. And he hired a staff that matches that outlook as well. I'm expecting this to be a year of learning the new system and evaluating the long-term potential for all of this young talent. It's going to be rough at times, but the process is important.

With extended playing time for the young guys AND a better head coach AND a better bench, I don't think there's any way that the Utah Jazz won't make significant improvements in both the quality of play and actual wins. They'll still probably be in the lottery (which should give them yet another quality young player for the bench), but I truly expect them to be more highly regarded league-wide for the progress of individual players and as a team unit. I firmly believe that hey're on their way back up. Will it be enough to contend in the West? Who knows. I like their chances 3 years from now if Exum develops as hoped and if another player breaks out or if they make a move to acquire an All-Star forward.

I think that they're more likely to try to make that move next year, once they've seen how all of the young guys respond to Snyder and who steps up to lead the team moving forward. I firmly believe that this team has a lot of talent that was mismanaged horribly. I think that the front office is being prudent by seeing who fits with their future plans before making any drastic and/or dramatic moves. It's worth struggling for another year to put guys like Kanter, Burks, Burke, Exum, Gobert and Hood out on the court to see exactly what they can and can't do before deciding if they have a place on this team or not.

Nice posts. I do slightly disagree that DL didn't have a plan from day 1, he wasn't completely in charge from day one but I think KOC agreed with his long term plan and picked him for his successor because of it. Jazz generally don't just fly off and make decisions so it may look as though DL wasn't doing his plan but I have a feeling behind the scene he knew exactly what needed to be done.

 

[cowhide]

Oh yeah, they're pinning their hopes on a kid that hasn't played much and the Magic passed on in favor of a hopeful super-role player. And they are based in a free agency dead zone.

The Jazz are exactly where they want to be.

Did you think that way when 12 teams passed on Malone or 15 teams passed on Stockton? What were you expecting the heavens to open and God pronounce the next great Jazz Messiah has arrived so we would know exactly to choose in the draft.

 

[silesian]

Politial capital

Nice posts. I do slightly disagree that DL didn't have a plan from day 1, he wasn't completely in charge from day one but I think KOC agreed with his long turn plan and picked him for his successor because of it. Jazz generally don't just fly off and make decisions so it may look as though DL wasn't doing his plan but I have a feeling behind the scene he knew exactly wanted needed to be done.

Agreed. Also, Lindsay had to build credibility and political capital before making dramatic moves. The Jazz manage collaboratively and it is less of a 1-man command and control operation. Contrast Phil Jackson and the credibility, control and decision rights he had on day 1.