Are we just not a very good team?

[Truth]

I don't get why the offense either has to run through only one of Conley or Ingles. Say you've got 110 / 120 offensive possessions a game. Just alternate, Con / Ing, or Con / Ing / Mitch. You'll get more mileage out of them this way. You can't run the same play over and over anyway.

 

[416Klawzz]

He's a fine 3rd stringer, but not a regular rotation guy for sure.

only worthy of garbage minutes, shouldn't be utilized as we are using him

 

[jom2003]

people call us fools gold. hopefully we make the adjustments at the deadline

Shooting is fools gold.

The Jazz have 6 guys , any of whom could go for 25 /30 points on 70 % shooting on any given night, and is a bit disappointing that 2 of them will have a great offensive game, and the Jazz might still lose because 3 others will shoot badly or just not even get any shots. They need to get the whole team clicking together somehow.

That isn't the issue. The issue is that 4 out of those 6 guys aren't good at anything besides scoring and shooting. They are huge liability and hurt our defense/rebounding whenever we put them on the floor.

Shooting is fool’s gold that you can’t rely SOLELY to win in basketball. Hou was the best shooting team in 2018 then went 0-27 from deep during their most important game of the season to give up a 3-2 lead against the warriors during playoffs.

Good shooting certainly raises a team’s ceiling but it can also make you or break you. You can't give up every other important aspect of basketball in order to pursue it.

You can expect terrible shooters to have some good shooting nights but you can't expect terrible defenders/rebounders to have good night's defending or rebounding on any night.

 

[jom2003]

The Jazz need to make a few business decisions. If they want to maximize Rudy, then Joe has to initiate the offense more and Conley needs to play off the ball more. But that means Conley doesn't get in a rhythm like he did last night.

If the Jazz want Clarkson to carry a scoring load with the 2nd unit, then it's more important to pair him with a PF who is a 2-way player, rather than a pure shooting specialist like Niang. And since Clarkson is a limited defender, the Jazz have to compensate by playing him with an athletic wing and center who do play solid defense.

We don't have enough defensive pieces to accommodate all that. Besides our starting unit, every other rotation lineup is almost guaranteed to have more terrible defenders on the floor than the good ones

 

[Katastrofica]

Because everyone has a scorer's mentality--Mitchell, Conley, Clarkson, Bogey, even Niang. Everyone wants the ball and wants to shoot. They're getting in each other's way a bit. Then Rudy will complain that he's not getting enough touches. We've been here already.

The Jazz probably need to trade both Davis and Niang for a defensive player.

Yeah,I got feeling we need 1 more basketball in game, Clarkson shooting 1 ball per min and when he's hot it's looking pretty good,but if not we gonna have problems.

 

[nateboz]

Name 1 player that's better with Conley on the floor. You can't cause he brings DOWN the team.

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[cowhide]

The Jazz are a flawed team and the NBA has a lot of other talented teams. Yes the Jazz are good but not great and unless they make some changes to the roster we may never get to expected level that we hoped to achieve.

 

[cowhide]

Defense and rebound are the main problems. Passing is a problem too. Sometimes the Jazz play selfishly and don't make good passes and other times they over pass both result in too many turnovers.

 

[cowhide]

There are times when the Jazz play soft. Many teams have figure out to press the Jazz out to the 3pt line and physically manhandle them and the Jazz wilt most of the time.

 

[Nate505]

The Jazz are a top 10 team in the NBA. Whether that's "very good" or not is up to interpretation.

I think they will end the year as a top 4 team in the West. Is that very good? I don't know. I don't think they'll win a title this year, but this is the first year in like 10 where I've thought them winning a title is at least plausible.

 

[Jingled]

Name 1 player that's better with Conley on the floor. You can't cause he brings DOWN the team.

Sadly I think this may be true. It's not Conley's fault, I think he's doing the best he can, but he's just a poor fit on this team.

 

[Getting Traded]

Sadly I think this may be true. It's not Conley's fault, I think he's doing the best he can, but he's just a poor fit on this team.

So true. Mudiay is not as good a player but a better fit, and he has upside being young, the same age as Donovan. We should invest in him in the future and move on from Conley, who is on the decline. The problem though is moving him. Does anyone have any ideas how we could do this before the deadline? It seems impossible, and if we can't, then what? Should we start him, relegate him to spot duty, bench him and go with Mudiay?