Article About Denver Wanting to Trade

[Miggs]

Not sure why people are so quick to just dump all three nonguaranteeds.

One, Denver’s whole point is they want to save a lot of ****ing money. Those three combined make almost as much as Faried if not more so why would they do it? I’m guessing users are just thinking Denver can then opt out of those deals and that’s fine.

But why would we do it? Don’t each of those guys bring us some value?

I mean, I’m not sure I would keep Sef and JJ but dumping both of those doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense, especially since it’s no foregone conclusion Favors is coming back.

And just dumping Udoh means Bradley or Faried is backing Gobert up. Can they?

Burks and a couple 2nds for Faried and Chandler and 14 makes sense.

Or a couple 2nds for Faried and 14 makes sense.

But dumping all those dudes does not imo.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I'm not sure this works. It turns out all the non-guaranteed guys dont actually count as outgoing salary for upcoming trades.

Unless they were guaranteed, which is the beginning of July?
Can we elect to guarantee early?

 

[Miggs]

No, they would want to swap picks. They could pick swap with Brooklyn and get the 29th pick, or something like that. The Jazz arent the only team that can facilitate a trade.

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Are you sure Cy? I thought they could act as trade chips. There has been talk of Al Jefferson and other nonguaranteed contracts acting as trade chips so teams can shed cap.

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Yes, Andy Larsen talked about it.



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[TheStormofWar]

I'm not sure this works. It turns out all the non-guaranteed guys dont actually count as outgoing salary for upcoming trades.

Damn it, you're right.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/03/how-non-guaranteed-salaries-will-affect-trades-in-new-cba.html

Well, so much for that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Unless they were guaranteed, which is the beginning of July?
Can we elect to guarantee early?

If they were guaranteed it would ruin the point of the trade...

 

[LoPo]

I learn something new every day. So only the guaranteed portion of Thabo, JJ and Udoh counts towards a deal. Anybody know how much is guaranteed in those 3 contracts?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/03/how-non-guaranteed-salaries-will-affect-trades-in-new-cba.html

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm always a bit confused on how these trades work in the off-season, but I think a team who can do this trade has to have cap-room to outright acquire Faried's contract.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I learn something new every day. So only the guaranteed portion of Thabo, JJ and Udoh counts towards a deal. Anybody know how much is guaranteed in those 3 contracts?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/03/how-non-guaranteed-salaries-will-affect-trades-in-new-cba.html

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$0

 

[LoPo]

Wait, not any of those 3 deals is guaranteed at all? What a terrible deal by their agents.



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[Rubashov]

Utah is not trading Burks for Faried. It would be the Ungs. Denver is looking to drop out of the tax. Trading Thabo, Jonas, and Epke for Faried and 14 would be the baseline deal. If Denver's GM Connelly has a gun to his head by ownership, Utah is one of the logical deals there as they can facilitate it.

That would be a deal worth thinking about but do we really wanna lose those guys? Jonas and Crowder are tight, Thabo and Epke are both great locker room guys, if Favors walks i'd rather have them as a known quantity.

Is the 14th and 21st pick gonna get us closer to the big dance is really the question and i doubt it is.

 

[LoPo]

With this being cleared up (thank you Cy), we dont have much trade power this off-season unless we just let those 3 guys walk, renounce Favors and use cap space plus Burks.

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